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Old 09-04-2007, 02:48 PM
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Just for yucks...Anybody have any opinions at this time?

Lawyer Ron...........5/2
Street Sense.........3/1
Anygivensaturday...5/1....My Pick
Curlin...................8/1
Field....................5/1
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Old 09-04-2007, 02:58 PM
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Just for yucks...Anybody have any opinions at this time?

Lawyer Ron...........5/2
Street Sense.........3/1
Anygivensaturday...5/1....My Pick
Curlin...................8/1
Field....................5/1
Yes, Lawyer Ron at 5/2 is the steal of the century. He will be closer to even money or 4/5, especially if he trains up to the race.
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Old 09-04-2007, 03:01 PM
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Just for yucks...Anybody have any opinions at this time?

Lawyer Ron...........5/2
Street Sense.........3/1
Anygivensaturday...5/1....My Pick
Curlin...................8/1
Field....................5/1
Hard Spun is expected to run so you should add him in. . . I think 5-1 on the field is a little low. . . I like AGS too but I'd also be interested to see if George Washington is entered and what kind of odds he is available at. . .
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Old 09-04-2007, 03:08 PM
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Any chance for Rags? Or has that already been determined and I just missed it?
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Old 09-04-2007, 03:11 PM
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Yes, Lawyer Ron at 5/2 is the steal of the century. He will be closer to even money or 4/5, especially if he trains up to the race.
Not with Street Sense, Any Given Saturday, Curlin and some Euros in the race. In fact, in light of his stature as a Derby winner, I'd be very surprised if Street Sense wasn't the favorite (assuming that he wins his prep for the Classic). Before we get too crazy about Lawyer Ron, while he did look very good winning at Saratoga, beating the likes of the hardly-stellar Diamond Stripes, Wanderin Boy and Sun King, let's remember that he lost his only start at Monmouth, to a Grade III horse.
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Old 09-04-2007, 03:13 PM
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Yes, Lawyer Ron at 5/2 is the steal of the century. He will be closer to even money or 4/5, especially if he trains up to the race.
Lawyer Ron at 4/5 or even money would be one of the easiest tosses of the century.

Let's see if he runs again before the BC Classic and how he does.

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Old 09-04-2007, 04:07 PM
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Not with Street Sense, Any Given Saturday, Curlin and some Euros in the race. In fact, in light of his stature as a Derby winner, I'd be very surprised if Street Sense wasn't the favorite (assuming that he wins his prep for the Classic). Before we get too crazy about Lawyer Ron, while he did look very good winning at Saratoga, beating the likes of the hardly-stellar Diamond Stripes, Wanderin Boy and Sun King, let's remember that he lost his only start at Monmouth, to a Grade III horse.
They said the same about Ghostzapper in the BCC and they let him off at like 5/2 or something insane. I think you should get crazy about Lawyer Ron because his figures are HEAD AND TAILS above all these horses and should/would be a stone cold single on BC Day for me. His figures are in the Ghostzapper terriotory right now and while I doubt he could improve, he could regress 4 pts and STILL win. He has been whipped twice in these last two victories, it isn't like he was all out.
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Old 09-04-2007, 04:10 PM
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Right now Lawyer Ron should be a 3/5 favorite. 5/2 would be like robbing a bank without facing the consequences.
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Old 09-04-2007, 04:11 PM
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They said the same about Ghostzapper in the BCC and they let him off at like 5/2 or something insane. I think you should get crazy about Lawyer Ron because his figures are HEAD AND TAILS above all these horses and should/would be a stone cold single on BC Day for me. His figures are in the Ghostzapper terriotory right now and while I doubt he could improve, he could regress 4 pts and STILL win. He has been whipped twice in these last two victories, it isn't like he was all out.
Pretty much how I feel too and the horse that did beat him at Monmouth, Gotcha Gold I feel is a bit more than a Grade III horse at that particular track.
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Old 09-04-2007, 04:12 PM
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Pretty much how I feel too and the horse that did beat him at Monmouth, Gotcha Gold I feel is a bit more than a Grade III horse at that particular track.
That race is a complete toss. Pletcher goes there to get them legged up. He TRIED the same thing with Flower Alley
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Old 09-04-2007, 04:12 PM
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Any chance for Rags? Or has that already been determined and I just missed it?
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Old 09-04-2007, 04:15 PM
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Could the Lawyer be a Horse for the Course?
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Old 09-04-2007, 04:16 PM
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Right now Lawyer Ron should be a 3/5 favorite. 5/2 would be like robbing a bank without facing the consequences.
Well then post your morningline rather than giving me sh it. Who was the last 3/5 in the BCC?

Pillow Pants...wtf are those? Those bloomers that Sabu wore in Arabian Nights movies?

BTW, I got 100 bucks that says Lawyer Ron will not win the Classic. Offer good for one taker until midnight
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Old 09-04-2007, 04:21 PM
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Pretty much how I feel too and the horse that did beat him at Monmouth, Gotcha Gold I feel is a bit more than a Grade III horse at that particular track.
yes, people keep making the mistake of downplaying Lawyer Ron because of that race. that was a 1 turn mile, not Lawyer Rons forte, and Gotha Gold is a fast course specialist at Monmouth which can really favor sprint type speed. Lawyer Ron is a true two turn route horse and not a sprinter.
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Old 09-04-2007, 04:23 PM
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yes, people keep making the mistake of downplaying Lawyer Ron because of that race. that was a 1 turn mile, not Lawyer Rons forte, and Gotha Gold is a fast course specialist at Monmouth which can really favor sprint type speed. Lawyer Ron is a true two turn route horse and not a sprinter.
It's pretty remarkable to look at the lifetime PP's for Ron. He was making starts nearly every two weeks as a two year old until the racing game (and right surface) finally woke him up.
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Old 09-04-2007, 04:24 PM
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Well then post your morningline rather than giving me sh it. Who was the last 3/5 in the BCC?
Is it a heavy flow day? I was giving my opinion, not giving you sh it.

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Pillow Pants...wtf are those? Those bloomers that Sabu wore in Arabian Nights movies?
Ask your buddies at ESPN.

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BTW, I got 100 bucks that says Lawyer Ron will not win the Classic.
Cool. Which horse are you putting it on, whale?
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Old 09-04-2007, 04:29 PM
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Is it a heavy flow day? I was giving my opinion, not giving you sh it.


Ask your buddies at ESPN.


Cool. Which horse are you putting it on, whale?
Give it to me. I'll put it on Curlin
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Old 09-04-2007, 04:29 PM
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Is it a heavy flow day? I was giving my opinion, not giving you sh it.


Ask your buddies at ESPN.


Cool. Which horse are you putting it on, whale?
I am giving you the Lawyer. I get the field. At 3/5 it is an overlay for you. And don't forget you have the Robot training. He has a remarkable record in the BC.
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Old 09-04-2007, 04:33 PM
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I am giving you the Lawyer. I get the field. At 3/5 it is an overlay for you. And don't forget you have the Robot training. He has a remarkable record in the BC.
How much money has he cost you this summer? You seem awful bitter over him. If you would've took the time to...

A. Calm Down
B. Take a Deep Breath
C. Read

You would've noticed that I said "should."

Why would I take even money when chances are he will be above that? And why do you want to continue to lose betting against him?
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Old 09-04-2007, 04:36 PM
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Based on the fact that Lawyer Ron seems to love Saratoga and ran just an ok race at Monmouth, I think Any Given Saturday will be the favorite if he wins the Jockey Club Gold Cup or any race he runs in before the Classic. If he trains up to the race I would say LR will be the favorite.

Pletcher will have the two best shots to win the race but I will go with Grasshopper to win it all.


Here are some preliminary BCC futures odds. 4-1 is the lowest out there right now.

http://www.sportingbet.com.au/uipub/...33&l3id=644534
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