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04-14-2008, 11:36 AM
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post Blue Grass & Ark Derby future prices
I was curious how the books would evaluate the weekend races. Here are the current future prices at TheGreek:
1951 Big Brown +305 1952 Pyro +825 1953 Colonel John +605 1954 Tale of Ekati +2050 1955 Gayego +1815 1956 Monba +1815 1957 War Pass +1815 1958 Z Humor +3050 1959 Court Vision +2550 1960 Z Fortune +2050 1961 Adriano +3550 1962 Smooth Air +3550 1963 Salute the Sarge +5250 1964 Cool Coal Man +4050 1965 Cowboy Cal +4050 1966 Visionaire +3050 1967 Big Truck +4050 1968 Bob Black Jack +2550 1969 Denis of Cork +4550 1970 El Gato Malo +5250 1972 Hey Byrn +2550 "+2550" means 25.50 to 1. TheGreek isn't overly impressed with either of the weekend winners, offering about 18-1 on each. And Cowboy Cal is dismissed at 40-1. Pyro has slipped from 4-1 to more than 8-1. Odds on Big Brown have dropped from 4.65-1 to a shade over 3-1. --Dunbar
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Curlin and Hard Spun finish 1,2 in the 2007 BC Classic, demonstrating how competing in all three Triple Crown races ruins a horse for the rest of the year...see avatar photo from REUTERS/Lucas Jackson 
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04-14-2008, 11:40 AM
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Hey Byrn at 25.5-1 when he's not even gonna get in? That seems a little unethical to me to even offer that.
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04-14-2008, 12:22 PM
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40-1 on cowboy cal is crazy... its pletcher, its giants causeway.... he will be bet, just like he was bet in the bluegrass, from 15-1 to 8-1
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04-14-2008, 12:22 PM
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With these guys, you have to adjust your definition of "unethical" a bit. I did think it was unethical of CRIS (same as Bookmaker) to offer odds on a dead horse for weeks after the tragedy. (Midway Cat, 45-1, 2003; With A City, 75-1, 2006). TheGreek is actually pretty responsible about taking down lines when a horse is injured. They were usually faster than Pinnacle at reacting to news. --Dunbar
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Curlin and Hard Spun finish 1,2 in the 2007 BC Classic, demonstrating how competing in all three Triple Crown races ruins a horse for the rest of the year...see avatar photo from REUTERS/Lucas Jackson
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04-14-2008, 12:31 PM
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04-14-2008, 12:47 PM
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04-14-2008, 01:27 PM
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04-14-2008, 01:31 PM
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04-14-2008, 01:47 PM
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--Dunbar
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Curlin and Hard Spun finish 1,2 in the 2007 BC Classic, demonstrating how competing in all three Triple Crown races ruins a horse for the rest of the year...see avatar photo from REUTERS/Lucas Jackson
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04-14-2008, 01:51 PM
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Yes, he should get the dream setup and the perfect trip with his tactical speed and his style, and like you said, he should be sitting in a spot to get the first crack at the speed. However, a dream trip will never eliminate the fact that he simply doesn't appear fast enough to win even with the perfect setup. I will be thrilled to be wrong on this, however, but I doubt that I will be.
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