2/28-3/1 (GP): FOY (Gr. II); Canadian (Gr. III); Davona Dale (Gr. II)

[zippyneedsawin]

8th (4:43) Canadian Turf S. (G3)

1 Mile (Turf) | Open | 4 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $150,000

1 Rogue Victory Douglas R R 116 L
2 Sporting Art Desormeaux K J 122 L
3 Hey Byrn Velasquez C 122 L
4 Buffalo Man Coa E M 122 L
5 Delightful Kiss Borel C H 122 L
6 Passager (FR) Prado E S 120 L
7 Vanquisher Garcia Alan 120 L
8 Just as Well Leparoux J R 118 L
9 Twilight Meteor Velazquez J R 120 L
10 Bujagali Trujillo E 116 L
11 Buddy's Humor Lezcano J 120 L



9th (5:14) Fountain of Youth S. (G2)

1 Mile | Open | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $250,000

1 Bee Cee Cee Velasquez C 120 L
2 Theregoesjojo Desormeaux K J 116 L
3 Notonthesamepage Trujillo E 120 L
4 Take the Points Decarlo C P 116 L
5 Jack Spratt Douglas R R 120 L
6 Rocketing Returns Lezcano J 116 L
7 Beethoven Borel C H 122 L
8 Break Water Edison Coa E M 122 Blk-On L
9 Capt. Candyman Can Leparoux J R 122 L
10 Taqarub Garcia Alan 120 L
11 Quality Road Velazquez J R 114 FTL
12 This Ones for Phil Prado E S 120 L



SUNDAY 9th (5:14) Davona Dale S. (G2)

1 Mile | Fillies | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $150,000

1 Shared Account Rose J 116 L
2 Stage Trick Marquez C H Jr 114 L
3 Hopeful Image Velasquez C 116 L
4 Frolic's Dream Velazquez J R 122 L
5 Renda Prado E S 120 L
6 C. S. Silk Desormeaux K J 120 L
7 Justwhistledixie Garcia Alan 120 L
8 Casanova Move Lezcano J 114 Blk-Off L
9 Step Out Smartly Castellano J J 120 L

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Dutrow got his wish.

[VOL JACK]

I thought Take the Points was heading to SA for the Sham?

[ateamstupid]

Theregoesjojo

[lemoncrush]

Originally Posted by VOL JACK

I thought Take the Points was heading to SA for the Sham?

Looks like they entered him in both.

[Bobby Fischer]

EDIT= the more i look at this Candyman is the class 3yo here.

[Handicappy]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Dutrow got his wish.

Not quite, he still wants a specific gate attendent out there for the horse. Well not really but isn't that next?

[declansharbor]

O/T, but does anyone know if Bear's Rocket has worked since the Holy Bull?

[Bigsmc]

Originally Posted by declansharbor

O/T, but does anyone know if Bear's Rocket has worked since the Holy Bull?

Bear's Rocket 02/22/2009 PMM 5F 1:01.60 Dirt Fast H
02/15/2009 PMM 5F 1:01.35 Dirt Fast H

http://www.drf.com/workoutsForHorseA...o?rNo=06029990

[declansharbor]

Originally Posted by Bigsmc

Bear's Rocket 02/22/2009 PMM 5F 1:01.60 Dirt Fast H
02/15/2009 PMM 5F 1:01.35 Dirt Fast H

http://www.drf.com/workoutsForHorseA...o?rNo=06029990

Thanks Bigs

I wonder where he'll show up next. I thought for sure that he'd outrun his odds in teh HB and certainly did so IMO.

[cakes44]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Theregoesjojo

I'll second that...should get a good price on him too.

[thunderdan09]

I am curious as to if there is a post bias from the #12 post at 1 mile at Gulfstream. I know at 1 1/8 it makes a big difference, but how do you think it will affect THIS ONE'S FOR PHIL???

[robfla]

I think the outside post is the better place to be. There are only horses inside of him and therefore there is no chance of getting squeezed. That's a perfect stalk and pounce spot. On the other hand, I am very reluctant in betting the 1 post in an elongated sprint ( 7f - 1m at GP )because a horse can duck into the gap between the gate and the main track. Also, an inside horse's hand is forced in having to gun it if he is a speed horse on the rail.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by declansharbor

Thanks Bigs

I wonder where he'll show up next. I thought for sure that he'd outrun his odds in teh HB and certainly did so IMO.

I think they are taking the weenie route and going straight to the Florida Derby. Let's keep conditioning these horses to run every 5 to 8 weeks and then if they win the Derby bring them back in two and act surprised when they breakdown.

[SniperSB23]

Am I alone in thinking that This Ones for Phil can regress here, not like the distance, and still win easily? With the previous trainer he ran just as well at a mile and beyond as he did in sprints. His 6 furlong work suggests we aren't looking at a horse that was sapped from the big effort last out. He has plenty of experiencing going wide so shouldn't be hindered by the 12 post. I honestly don't know how the odds are going to play out in this one but I could easily see this horse slipping through at 5-1 or higher.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by cakes44

I'll second that...should get a good price on him too.

He's 15-1 on the M/L. I'd settle for half that.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Am I alone in thinking that This Ones for Phil can regress here, not like the distance, and still win easily? With the previous trainer he ran just as well at a mile and beyond as he did in sprints. His 6 furlong work suggests we aren't looking at a horse that was sapped from the big effort last out. He has plenty of experiencing going wide so shouldn't be hindered by the 12 post. I honestly don't know how the odds are going to play out in this one but I could easily see this horse slipping through at 5-1 or higher.

I doubt it. I can't see him higher than 7/2. Who's going to take significantly more money? Maybe Notonthesamepage ends up a slight favorite, but bettors won't let TOFP get away again. He's the horse to beat of course, but this is a murderous field, so I can't take anyone at less than 4-1.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

I doubt it. I can't see him higher than 7/2. Who's going to take significantly more money? Maybe Notonthesamepage ends up a slight favorite, but bettors won't let TOFP get away again.

I think Capt Candyman Can will be bet down to 5/2 or 2/1 or Beethoveen winds up around 6-1.

While a bloodhorse survey is far from an accurate gauge of betting interest I still found this one interesting:

Bee Cee Cee 1% (18 votes)

Theregoesjojo 10% (136 votes)

Notonthesamepage 10% (124 votes)

Take the Points 3% (33 votes)

Jack Spratt 3% (37 votes)

Rocketing Returns <1% (6 votes)

Beethoven 15% (196 votes)

Break Water Edison 5% (69 votes)

Capt. Candyman Can 32% (417 votes)

Taqarub 9% (118 votes)

Quality Road 3% (43 votes)

This Ones for Phil 8% (100 votes)

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

I think Capt Candyman Can will be bet down to 5/2 or 2/1 or Beethoveen winds up around 6-1.

I'd be both stunned and aroused if this happened re: Candyman.

I'll buy you a beer at the Wood if TOFP is higher than 7/2. Low-risk proposition for me.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

I'd be both stunned and aroused if this happened re: Candyman.

I'll buy you a beer at the Wood if TOFP is higher than 7/2. Low-risk proposition for me.

Sounds good to me. You don't think the bounce theorists will be throwing their money around against him?