2/20 (GP): Hutch, Fountain (G2's), Honey Fox, CDN Turf (G3's)

[Alan07]

8th (4:37) Hutcheson S. (G2)

7 Furlongs | Open | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $150,000

Prg. # PP Horse Jockey Trainer Wt. Claim $ Equip. Med. ML
1 1 Radiohead (GB) Leparoux J R Dutrow, Jr. R E 122 L 5-1
2 2 City Trooper Gomez G K Weaver George 116 L 12-1
3 3 Ibboyee Velazquez J R Pletcher Todd A 120 L 10-1
4 4 Sum Champ Velasquez C White William P 116 L 20-1
5 5 Wildcat Frankie Lopez P Hatchett James 116 L 4-1
6 6 Hear Ye Hear Ye Sanchez J Gold Stanley I 120 L 8-1
7 7 D' Funnybone Prado E S Dutrow, Jr. R E 122 L 2-1
8 8 A Little Warm Rose J Dutrow Anthony W 120 L 3-1

Exacta / Trifecta / Superfecta / Daily Double / Pick 3 / Pick 4

9th (5:08) Canadian Turf S. (G3)

1 Mile (Turf) | Open | 4 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $150,000

Prg. # PP Horse Jockey Trainer Wt. Claim $ Equip. Med. ML
1 1 Le Grand Cru Lezcano J Jerkens H Allen 120 L 5-1
2 2 Mambo Meister Velazquez J R Gleaves Philip A 122 L 6-1
3 3 Pickapocket Trujillo E Wolfson Martin D 118 L 8-1
4 4 Jet Propulsion Leparoux J R Wolfson Martin D 122 L 4-1
5 5 Cherokee Artist Rose J Motion H Graham 120 L 8-1
6 6 Vanquisher Garcia Alan Griffith Gregory 118 L 20-1
7 7 Courageous Cat Gomez G K Mott William I 124 L 5-2
8 8 Rahy's Attorney Landry R C Black Ian 124 L 6-1
9 9 Star Plus (ARG) Maragh R Penna Angel Jr 118 L 10-1
10 10 Dream Maestro Cruz M R Kaplan William A 118 L 6-1

Exacta / Trifecta / Superfecta / Daily Double / Pick 3

10th (5:40) Fasig-Tipton Fountain of Youth S. (G2)

1 1/8 Miles | Open | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $250,000

Prg. # PP Horse Jockey Trainer Wt. Claim $ Equip. Med. ML
1 1 Aikenite Garcia Alan Pletcher Todd A 116 L 6-1
2 2 Buddy's Saint Lezcano J Levine Bruce N 122 L 3-1
3 3 Pulsion Smith M E Biancone Patrick L 116 L 12-1
4 4 Pleasant Prince Leparoux J R Ward Wesley A 116 L 12-1
5 5 Jackson Bend Rose J Zito Nicholas P 120 L 5-2
6 6 Prince Will I Am Lopez P Nihei Michelle 116 L 30-1
7 7 Positive Split Prado E S McPeek Kenneth G 116 L 12-1
8 8 Eskendereya Velazquez J R Pletcher Todd A 120 L 5-1
9 9 Lost Aptitude Maragh R Romans Dale 118 L 10-1
10 10 Ice Box Bravo J Zito Nicholas P 116 L 10-1

Exacta / Trifecta / Superfecta / Daily Double

11th (6:11) Honey Fox S. (G3)

1 Mile (Turf) | Fillies and Mares | 4 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $100,000

Prg. # PP Horse Jockey Trainer Wt. Claim $ Equip. Med. ML
1 1 Meriwether Jessica Garcia Alan Rice Linda 117 L 20-1
2 2 Backseat Rhythm Gomez G K Dutrow, Jr. R E 123 L 12-1
3 3 Belmont Cat (NZ) Smith M E Sadler John W 123 L 10-1
4 4 Romacaca Castanon J L Miller Danny L 117 L 5-1
5 5 Meadow Saffron Landry R C Seitz Frederick J 117 15-1
6 6 Akilina Maragh R Clement Christophe 121 L 7-2
7 7 Bluegrass Princess Leparoux J R Brown Chad C 117 Blk-Off L 8-1
8 8 Cherokee Queen Rose J Motion H Graham 117 L 8-1
9 9 Drop a Line Rocco J S Jr Motion H Graham 117 L 15-1
10 10 Kitty Cat Express Lezcano J Pointer Norman R 117 L 20-1
11 11 Sales Tax Trujillo E Delacour Leigh 117 L 20-1
12 12 Afternoon Stroll Cruz M R Hamm Timothy 123 L 20-1
13 13 Quiet Harbor Castro E McGaughey III C R 123 L 6-1
14 14 Wasted Tears Velasquez C Evans Bart B 123 L 8-1
15 15 Our Dahlia Prado E S Santos Nuno 117 L 20-1
16 16 Yes She's a Lady Velazquez J R Pletcher Todd A 117 Blk-Off L 12-1

Exacta / Trifecta / Superfecta

[Antitrust32]

seems like a pretty darn good day of racing!!

[tector]

FG has a nice card, too. And then the Southwest as well. Nice day to bet.

[rpncaine]

Anybody heard the weather forecast?

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by rpncaine

Anybody heard the weather forecast?

73 and party cloudy, no rain. Terrific group of stakes.

[declansharbor]

My brother's first born (Jan. 3rd) is named Jackson...He wants to know the odds he might get on Jackson Bend in the FOY. He wants to know what the posttime odds will most likely be. I told him maybe 7/2 to 5-1 range...Correct or am I off?

[hockey2315]

Maybe a little lower - 5/2?

[declansharbor]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

Maybe a little lower - 5/2?

He'll go off the same as last race? Interesting. This field is saltier, right? Im sooo off base with the Derby contenders this year it isnt even funny. Thanks

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by declansharbor

He'll go off the same as last race? Interesting. This field is saltier, right? Im sooo off base with the Derby contenders this year it isnt even funny. Thanks

He went off 8/5 in his last start. I think he's going to be the 2nd choice and that'll put him somewhere in the 5/2 to 3-1 range.

NT

[RolloTomasi]

Ridiculous. The Hutcheson on the same day as the Fountain Of Youth. Looks like GP took a page out of Santa Anita's owner's manual (of course its the same). Why are these tracks intent on dismantling their once logical and organized 3yo stakes?

For those who might care, and this is by no means all-inclusive:

Spectacular Bid, Lord Avie, Swale, Forty Niner, Fly So Free, Holy Bull, Unbridled's Song, Cat Thief, Coronado's Quest, First Samurai, etc. ran in both races back in the day, not to mention the Florida Derby.

I guess the Hutcheson (a Grade 2) is now relegated to prep status for the Grade 3 Swale (another traditional starting point for 3yos a little behind the eight-ball, eg Chief's Crown, Summer Squall, Easy Goer, Favorite Trick, Thirty Six Red, Seeking The Gold).

To complete the trend, maybe Churchill will move the Derby Trial to the first Saturday in May.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

^ Good take as always.

I'm very confused about more than a few of the Fountain of Youth runners. It's one of those Derby preps where you feel foggy going in - but you expert to learn a whole lot after it's done.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Ridiculous. The Hutcheson on the same day as the Fountain Of Youth. Looks like GP took a page out of Santa Anita's owner's manual (of course its the same). Why are these tracks intent on dismantling their once logical and organized 3yo stakes?

For those who might care, and this is by no means all-inclusive:

Spectacular Bid, Lord Avie, Swale, Forty Niner, Fly So Free, Holy Bull, Unbridled's Song, Cat Thief, Coronado's Quest, First Samurai, etc. ran in both races back in the day, not to mention the Florida Derby.

I guess the Hutcheson (a Grade 2) is now relegated to prep status for the Grade 3 Swale (another traditional starting point for 3yos a little behind the eight-ball, eg Chief's Crown, Summer Squall, Easy Goer, Favorite Trick, Thirty Six Red, Seeking The Gold).

To complete the trend, maybe Churchill will move the Derby Trial to the first Saturday in May.

I agree and it all stems from the fact that Gulfstream's new configuration has them completely hamstrung. Last year they ran the Hutcheson and Holy Bull on the same weekend with the HB being a race for horses who were ahead of the curve and ready to go 9fs. The Hutcheson was a prep for the Fountain of Youth, which was run at a mile instead of 1 1/8 miles.

Now the Hutcheson is kind of in no man's land as far as theoretical Derby preps go.

It can't just be a coincidence that the Sam Davis and Tampa Derby gained in popularity after GP re-configured it's main track. The ability to run 8.5 furlongs is pretty big for 3YOs. Just imagine if GP hadn't extended the chute and their longest possible distance was the 7.5 furlongs they originally planned!

NT

[RolloTomasi]

Speaking of Tampa Bay Downs, their derailing of Gulfstream doesn't stop with the 3yo division.

Anyone notice that well-bred BC Mile runner-up Courageous Cat is making his return to the races in the Grade 3 $150,000 8f Canadian Turf, a mere 2 hours after BC Classic runner-up Gio Ponti makes his comeback in the Grade 3 $150,000 8.5f Tampa Bay BC?

We've come a long way since '89 BC Turf winner Prized and '89 BC Mile winner Steinlen made their '90 debuts when locking horns in the Grade 3 8f Arcadia Handicap at Santa Anita (Prized ripped the very flat Steinlen a new one in that race).

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Speaking of Tampa Bay Downs, their derailing of Gulfstream doesn't stop with the 3yo division.

Anyone notice that well-bred BC Mile runner-up Courageous Cat is making his return to the races in the Grade 3 $150,000 8f Canadian Turf, a mere 2 hours after BC Classic runner-up Gio Ponti makes his comeback in the Grade 3 $150,000 8.5f Tampa Bay BC?

We've come a long way since '89 BC Turf winner Prized and '89 BC Mile winner Steinlen made their '90 debuts when locking horns in the Grade 3 8f Arcadia Handicap at Santa Anita (Prized ripped the very flat Steinlen a new one in that race).

Aren't TB and GP in competition for betting dollars? Or is it revenue sharing like the NFL?

[VOL JACK]

Originally Posted by tector

FG has a nice card, too. And then the Southwest as well. Nice day to bet.

Nice day for the wife to have our 3 year old daughter's Birthday party.
2-4 central time....she loves to torture me.

[The Bid]

Only thing better is if you are at Chucky Cheese on Derby day. I can only pray it happens

[VOL JACK]

Originally Posted by The Bid

Only thing better is if you are at Chucky Cheese on Derby day. I can only pray it happens

Well Gavin is due close to Belmont day...so I will probably miss Stately Victor's bid for the triple crown.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Aren't TB and GP in competition for betting dollars? Or is it revenue sharing like the NFL?

Good point. I was so worried about a mythical Gio Ponti versus Courageous Cat matchup that I didn't see the great TB-GP rivalry staring me in the face.

I wonder if either will be able to beat Hialeah after that one warms up from the long layoff.

[cakes44]

Value is there to be had in all of 'em. Should be a great day.

[tector]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Good point. I was so worried about a mythical Gio Ponti versus Courageous Cat matchup that I didn't see the great TB-GP rivalry staring me in the face.

I wonder if either will be able to beat Hialeah after that one warms up from the long layoff.

Pass the bowl over here, man.