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Old 03-10-2010, 03:37 PM
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Default 3/13 (SA): Santa Margarita H. (G1); San Felipe S. (G2)

7th (3:36) Santa Margarita Invitational H. (G1)

1 1/8 Miles (All Weather Track) | Fillies and Mares | 4 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $250,000

1 Dance to My Tune Garcia M 111 L
2 Pretty Katherine Rosario J 111 L
3 Made for Magic Berrio O A 111 L
4 Pretty Unusual Sutherland C 113 L
5 Striking Dancer Solis A 115 L
6 Powerofvoodoo Kaplan T 108 L
7 Gripsholm Castle Espinoza V 112 L
8 Zenyatta Smith M E 127 L
9 Floating Heart Talamo J 111 L



9th (4:38) San Felipe S. (G2)

1 1/16 Miles (All Weather Track) | Open | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $150,000

1 Stephen's Got Hope Baze T C 115 L
2 Interactif Bejarano R 117 L
3 Erbeia Solis A 115 L
4 American Lion Leparoux J R 117 Blk-On L
5 Sidney's Candy Talamo J 117 L
6 Dave in Dixie Rosario J 115 L
7 Caracortado Atkinson P 119 L
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Old 03-10-2010, 03:52 PM
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They should have Zenyatta carrying 166 vs that group.
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Old 03-10-2010, 05:33 PM
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They should have Zenyatta carrying 166 vs that group.
They could have Scav or Chuck as the jock and she'd still win


Now that would be fun to see ...
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Old 03-10-2010, 05:36 PM
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They could have Scav or Chuck as the jock and she'd still win


Now that would be fun to see ...
I think I am larger then both of them, just saying...
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Old 03-10-2010, 10:12 PM
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Zenyatta's margin of victory:

2.50 lengths or greater (-120)
Less than 2.5 lengths (Even money)
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Old 03-10-2010, 10:23 PM
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Zenyatta's margin of victory:

2.50 lengths or greater (-120)
Less than 2.5 lengths (Even money)
I'll take the under. I think Mike Smith does just enough and saves some for the next battle...
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Old 03-10-2010, 11:33 PM
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Zenyatta's margin of victory:

2.50 lengths or greater (-120)
Less than 2.5 lengths (Even money)
How does the rest of the field stack up to Anabaa's Creation?

Is there any true frontrunner in there?
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Old 03-10-2010, 11:33 PM
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How does the rest of the field stack up to Anabaa's Creation?

Is there any true frontrunner in there?

Todds horse is a Giants Causeway, does that matter to anyone?
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Old 03-10-2010, 11:41 PM
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Todds horse is a Giants Causeway, does that matter to anyone?
Not as much as her two previous starts over the Pro-Ride.
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Old 03-10-2010, 11:51 PM
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How does the rest of the field stack up to Anabaa's Creation?

Is there any true frontrunner in there?
Del Mar's poly - this past summer - was a lot less kind to wide deep closers than SA's pro-ride is.

It's hard to say who the speed is ... there are some very cheap horses coming out of claiming races and sprint races.

Anabaa's Creation - while still elidigble for N3X Alw races - would certainly be good enough to run 2nd or 3rd against these.
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Old 03-10-2010, 11:59 PM
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Del Mar's poly - this past summer - was a lot less kind to wide deep closers than SA's pro-ride is.
Yeah, I intentionally ignored that piece of information to make believe the race was even remotely interesting.

Back to your winning margin thing, is Zenyatta the type of horse that will run away from a field?

I guess it mostly depends on when Mike Smith pushes the button.
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Old 03-11-2010, 12:04 AM
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I'm just setting an over/under as I would if Vegas made me a linemaker.
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Old 03-11-2010, 01:47 AM
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I'm just setting an over/under as I would if Vegas made me a linemaker.

Interesting race to factor in "do we have to adhere to the original script?"

I've often considered myself adept at handicapping any possible "fix." Years of living in Chicago will lead to that handicap angle consideration. And other places, of course.

Of course this is not an apparent money making race for wagering.

I want Zenyatta to win, but I won't be tremendously surprised if racing luck gives us another winner..... with Zenyatta hitting the board in a "tough luck" race.
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Old 03-11-2010, 07:31 AM
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I'm at work and can't tell for sure, but are these post times EST?
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Old 03-11-2010, 08:11 AM
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I'm at work and can't tell for sure, but are these post times EST?
They are PST
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Old 03-12-2010, 10:45 PM
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I'm sure the answer is around here if I dig, but does anyone easily know the television coverage....if any.....for the Rachel Alexandra race and the Zenyatta race tomorrow?

I have the email that I guess NTRA will stream, but I haven't checked the details.
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Old 03-12-2010, 10:47 PM
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I'm sure the answer is around here if I dig, but does anyone easily know the television coverage....if any.....for the Rachel Alexandra race and the Zenyatta race tomorrow?

I have the email that I guess NTRA will stream, but I haven't checked the details.

its horse racing....no real coverage....maybe a espn news cut in?
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Old 03-13-2010, 07:49 PM
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Sidney's Candy! Nice.
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Old 03-13-2010, 07:51 PM
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Gotta tip my cap to Sadler. Never saw anyone as good at stretching out horses (especially given the surface).
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Old 03-13-2010, 07:56 PM
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Sidney's Candy! Nice.
He will be DEADLY ON DIRT.
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