Originally Posted by the_fat_man

I'm still confused. If these guys have such HUGE edges, why don't they work for ALL their horses? I seem to recollect that when Ferraiola claimed a horse it was MONEY 1st time out. Or Oscar, with those multiple wins in succession from the same horse. YET, Wolfson can't get a win out of the RAT Jelly Roll and goes down at 4:5 with Onoitsmymotherinlaw.

Shouldn't he at least get his money back for the juice used on these horses?

I mean, there are certainly cases where JUICE DOESN'T WORK in sports, right? :rolleyes:

Originally Posted by MISTERGEE

just curious is it just me or do these miracle turnaround types usually never last more than one season of racing. I never remember these monster turnarounds lasting very long. does this make horse sense based on whatmay or may not being done to show these drastic improvements (besides tongue ties and shoe changes of course) ?

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

I'm still confused. If these guys have such HUGE edges, why don't they work for ALL their horses? I seem to recollect that when Ferraiola claimed a horse it was MONEY 1st time out. Or Oscar, with those multiple wins in succession from the same horse. YET, Wolfson can't get a win out of the RAT Jelly Roll and goes down at 4:5 with Onoitsmymotherinlaw.

Shouldn't he at least get his money back for the juice used on these horses?

I mean, there are certainly cases where JUICE DOESN'T WORK in sports, right? :rolleyes:

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

There are so many variables that it is impossible to quantify. But the one thing that stops horses more than anything is pain.

Originally Posted by MISTERGEE

aha, thanks for the info, I will venture to guess all these monster # horses ala motovato will almost all be gone by next year