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JolyB 08-19-2022 11:13 AM

August 20 Saratoga ROI Wagers go here
 
Please place your ROI wagers for the Saratoga race card on this thread not later than first post of 12:30 PM Eastern time.

Good luck to all and thank you to Real Quiet for scoring.

Let's all make RQ have to work harder than had to last week by cashing lots of winning tickets. :D

RUFFIAN 08-19-2022 01:26 PM

🏇 R O I = Resplendent Or Idiotic 🙀
 
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HOPING THIS IS TRUE 🙏
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RACE 7
#7 = $30 WIN ( GAME CHANGE )
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RACE 8
#2 = $20 WIN ( SAIL BY )
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RACE 10 = Wishful Thinkin Fur Sure 🙀
#2 = $20 WIN ( GODDESS OF FIRE )
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RACE 11
#10 = $30 WIN ( SONIC SPEED 🐆 )
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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Real Quiet 08-19-2022 01:59 PM

R4 $10 ex key 7 w 1-4-5 ($30)

R8 $20 ex key 1 w 4-5 ($40)

R11 10 cent super 1-4-6-7-12 w 1-4-6-7-12 w 1-4-6-7-12 w 1-4-6-7-8-11-12-14 ($30)

RUFFIAN 08-19-2022 02:01 PM

RQ

R2 $30 Quinella 1-6 ($30)

WHATS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN
EXACTA AND QUINELLA 🤔

JolyB 08-19-2022 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RUFFIAN (Post 1168866)
RQ

R2 $30 Quinella 1-6 ($30)

WHATS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN
EXACTA AND QUINELLA 🤔

Ruff, I'll take a shot at answering your question. The exacta requires that your picks finish first and second in exactly the order you picked. However, the quinella only requires that your picks finish first and second in either order.

In RQ's wager, he will cash a winning ticket if #1 and #6 finish in the top two places in either order. If he had played an exacta for 1-6, his pick of #1 would have had to win and #6 would have had to finish second. That's the short answer to your question.

RQ could have also played a $15 exacta box on 1 and 6 for the same $30 total wager and would be rooting for the same either/or finish. However, there are some reasons which I really don't want to get into now that might make the quinella the more desirable play for the same money and other instances where the exacta box route might be a better form of money management. As a very rough rule of thumb, you can expect a $2 quinella to pay around half of a winning $2 exacta (after all, there is much less risk). When you might expect the payoff to be better than half or worse than half is where the money management aspect comes in - that's for the postgraduate course.

The quinella is only offered at NYRA on races 2 and 4. There are some players who ridicule it as a poor man's exacta box; however, it can be a useful part of the bettor's arsenal depending upon your expectations of the outcome of the race and the expected payoffs.

Hope that helps to answer your question. If you want to discuss more, we can do that too.

RUFFIAN 08-19-2022 03:30 PM

JOLY
“ quinella only requires that your picks finish first and second in either order.”
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I’ve always called that a box exacta or an exacta box

JolyB 08-19-2022 03:58 PM

No, they are separate wagers and have separate betting pools and separate payouts. I attempted to address that issue in the third paragraph of my post.

RUFFIAN 08-19-2022 04:08 PM

I always hated being short
Maybe that’s why technology goes over my head :rolleyes:

It’s also the reason I only do WIN 🏆 BETS :)

Real Quiet 08-19-2022 09:05 PM

I should have "dutched" it JB. A $16 quinella 1-6 and a $14 quinella 6-1. I know. I know. Just joking. I'm just bored and had to jump in and confuse the Ruffer even more.

Zippy 08-20-2022 06:43 AM

R4 3-4-5-7 $2exbx ($24)

R5 1-5-6-7 $2exbx ($24)

R7 1-3-4-7 $2exbx ($24)

R9 3-4-7-9 $2exbx ($24)
$4 Show #4

Eclipse 08-20-2022 09:34 AM

Race 7
$14 place #2
$1 P3 ($27)
2/5/7
1/4/5
1/6/7

$1 Grand Slam ($27)
2/5/7
1/4/5
1/6/7
7

Race 8
$14 place #5
$1 P3 ($18)
1/4/5
1/6/7
4/7

Indian Hemp 08-20-2022 10:17 AM

race seven

50c P5 $100


1-5/1,4/1,6,7,9/4/4,6-8,12

thanks RQ and good luck all

Real Quiet 08-20-2022 10:20 AM

Eclipse....I'm just double checking your wager. There is no Pick 4 and the minimum wager for the Grand Slam I believe is $1

On the NYRA site
The minimum stake is $1 for a Grand Slam bet.

Digger 08-20-2022 10:23 AM

R10: secret oath 7 ( show $100 )

JolyB 08-20-2022 10:23 AM

Race 7:

$8 Grand Slam: 1,5 / 1,4 / 1,6,9 / 4 ($96)

Good luck to all and thank you to Real quiet for scoring.

Plenilune 08-20-2022 11:01 AM

r2 $50 W #4

r11 $50 W #4

cruzan200246 08-20-2022 11:09 AM

R3. 7 Steinbecker $25 Win
R4. 7 Bunty Windermere $25 Win
R7. 7 Game Change $25 Win
R9. 7 Illegal Smile $25 Win

Eclipse 08-20-2022 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Real Quiet (Post 1168908)
Eclipse....I'm just double checking your wager. There is no Pick 4 and the minimum wager for the Grand Slam I believe is $1

On the NYRA site
The minimum stake is $1 for a Grand Slam bet.

Thanks, hard to tell what minimums are for each bet from Equibase entries. I think I fixed everything now.

DonGuido 08-20-2022 11:18 AM

Race 9: $24 ex
3w/1,5,7,9
Enjoy the Day!!!

cal828 08-20-2022 11:24 AM

R5

$5 Tri Box 1,5,6=$30

R6

$3 Tri 1,6//1,4,5,6//1,4,5,6=$36

R8

$4 Tri 1,4//1,4//2,3,5,6=$32

R9 $2 Win 3=$2


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