August 20 Saratoga ROI Wagers go here

[JolyB]

Please place your ROI wagers for the Saratoga race card on this thread not later than first post of 12:30 PM Eastern time.

Good luck to all and thank you to Real Quiet for scoring.

Let's all make RQ have to work harder than had to last week by cashing lots of winning tickets.

[RUFFIAN]

“ GRAVEYARD OF FAVES “
HOPING THIS IS TRUE 🙏
CAN MY LONGSHOTS
EVEN COME THRU 🙀


RACE 7
#7 = $30 WIN ( GAME CHANGE )
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RACE 8
#2 = $20 WIN ( SAIL BY )
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RACE 10 = Wishful Thinkin Fur Sure 🙀
#2 = $20 WIN ( GODDESS OF FIRE )
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RACE 11
#10 = $30 WIN ( SONIC SPEED 🐆 )
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[Real Quiet]

R4 $10 ex key 7 w 1-4-5 ($30)

R8 $20 ex key 1 w 4-5 ($40)

R11 10 cent super 1-4-6-7-12 w 1-4-6-7-12 w 1-4-6-7-12 w 1-4-6-7-8-11-12-14 ($30)

[RUFFIAN]

RQ

R2 $30 Quinella 1-6 ($30)

WHATS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN
EXACTA AND QUINELLA 🤔

[JolyB]

Originally Posted by RUFFIAN

RQ

R2 $30 Quinella 1-6 ($30)

WHATS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN
EXACTA AND QUINELLA 🤔

Ruff, I'll take a shot at answering your question. The exacta requires that your picks finish first and second in exactly the order you picked. However, the quinella only requires that your picks finish first and second in either order.

In RQ's wager, he will cash a winning ticket if #1 and #6 finish in the top two places in either order. If he had played an exacta for 1-6, his pick of #1 would have had to win and #6 would have had to finish second. That's the short answer to your question.

RQ could have also played a $15 exacta box on 1 and 6 for the same $30 total wager and would be rooting for the same either/or finish. However, there are some reasons which I really don't want to get into now that might make the quinella the more desirable play for the same money and other instances where the exacta box route might be a better form of money management. As a very rough rule of thumb, you can expect a $2 quinella to pay around half of a winning $2 exacta (after all, there is much less risk). When you might expect the payoff to be better than half or worse than half is where the money management aspect comes in - that's for the postgraduate course.

The quinella is only offered at NYRA on races 2 and 4. There are some players who ridicule it as a poor man's exacta box; however, it can be a useful part of the bettor's arsenal depending upon your expectations of the outcome of the race and the expected payoffs.

Hope that helps to answer your question. If you want to discuss more, we can do that too.

[RUFFIAN]

JOLY
“ quinella only requires that your picks finish first and second in either order.”
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I’ve always called that a box exacta or an exacta box

[JolyB]

No, they are separate wagers and have separate betting pools and separate payouts. I attempted to address that issue in the third paragraph of my post.

[RUFFIAN]

I always hated being short
Maybe that’s why technology goes over my head

It’s also the reason I only do WIN 🏆 BETS

[Real Quiet]

I should have "dutched" it JB. A $16 quinella 1-6 and a $14 quinella 6-1. I know. I know. Just joking. I'm just bored and had to jump in and confuse the Ruffer even more.

[Zippy]

R4 3-4-5-7 $2exbx ($24)

R5 1-5-6-7 $2exbx ($24)

R7 1-3-4-7 $2exbx ($24)

R9 3-4-7-9 $2exbx ($24)
$4 Show #4

[Eclipse]

Race 7
$14 place #2
$1 P3 ($27)
2/5/7
1/4/5
1/6/7

$1 Grand Slam ($27)
2/5/7
1/4/5
1/6/7
7

Race 8
$14 place #5
$1 P3 ($18)
1/4/5
1/6/7
4/7

[Indian Hemp]

race seven

50c P5 $100


1-5/1,4/1,6,7,9/4/4,6-8,12

thanks RQ and good luck all

[Real Quiet]

Eclipse....I'm just double checking your wager. There is no Pick 4 and the minimum wager for the Grand Slam I believe is $1

On the NYRA site
The minimum stake is $1 for a Grand Slam bet.

[Digger]

R10: secret oath 7 ( show $100 )

[JolyB]

Race 7:

$8 Grand Slam: 1,5 / 1,4 / 1,6,9 / 4 ($96)

Good luck to all and thank you to Real quiet for scoring.

[Plenilune]

r2 $50 W #4

r11 $50 W #4

[cruzan200246]

R3. 7 Steinbecker $25 Win
R4. 7 Bunty Windermere $25 Win
R7. 7 Game Change $25 Win
R9. 7 Illegal Smile $25 Win

[Eclipse]

Originally Posted by Real Quiet

Eclipse....I'm just double checking your wager. There is no Pick 4 and the minimum wager for the Grand Slam I believe is $1

On the NYRA site
The minimum stake is $1 for a Grand Slam bet.

Thanks, hard to tell what minimums are for each bet from Equibase entries. I think I fixed everything now.

[DonGuido]

Race 9: $24 ex
3w/1,5,7,9
Enjoy the Day!!!

[cal828]

R5

$5 Tri Box 1,5,6=$30

R6

$3 Tri 1,6//1,4,5,6//1,4,5,6=$36

R8

$4 Tri 1,4//1,4//2,3,5,6=$32

R9 $2 Win 3=$2