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Kasept 12-14-2011 10:43 AM

12/14: Aqueduct (6th-9th)
 
AQUEDUCT


PRE-SCRATCHES


6th: OC/N1X, F&M-3+, 6f (P4, P3, DD, Super)

Most Likely: #1a Spina 3-1 8th
Best Value: #4 Victoria Lynn 12-1 6th
Next Best: #7 Speckledbird 4-1 3rd
Super Add: #5 Full of Gut 5-2 2nd


7th: CLM/N2L, 3+, 6f (P3, DD, Super)

Best Value: #2 Quiet Power 8-1 6th
Next Best: #9 Token Sacrifice 8-5 2nd
Exotics Use: #5 Fortitude 4-1 WON ($9.30)
Super Add: #8 He's a Scrooge 15-1 5th


8th: NY-OC/N2X, F&M-3+, 6f (DD, Super)

Most Likely: #1 Willet 1-4 WON ($2.20)
Best Value: #3 Laylaben 15-1 4th
Next Best: #5 Eden is Burning 12-1 2nd
Super Add: #4 Landlash 10-1 5th


9th: CLM, 3+, 6f (Super)

Best Value: #1 Understatement 12-1 2nd
Next Best: #2 Saint Daimon 4-1 4th
Exotics Use: #10 Have You Ever 5-2 3rd
Super Add: #11 Devonshire 15-1 6th


<$50 P4 Play:

6: 1-4-5-7
7: 2-5-8-9
8: 1
9: ALL

4x4x1x6 = 96 x .50 = $48


Good luck!
Steve

jms62 12-14-2011 01:52 PM

How does Full of Gut lose that race. C-Val fuked that up big time.

cmorioles 12-14-2011 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 825005)
How does Full of Gut lose that race. C-Val fuked that up big time.

He may have been beaten anyway, the horse was dead, but looking back three times certainly didn't help.

Kasept 12-14-2011 02:16 PM

That was a tough way to get the P4 crunched... But its been a worse day for Chatterpaul than those of us that tore up tickets. He lost Speight of Hand who broke down after the 3rd and was destroyed.

parsixfarms 12-14-2011 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 825012)
That was a tough way to get the P4 crunched... But its been a worse day for Chatterpaul than those of us that tore up tickets. He lost Speight of Hand who broke down after the 3rd and was destroyed.

Perhaps worse for Jason Servis who put in a claim for Speight of Hand.

freddymo 12-14-2011 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 825012)
That was a tough way to get the P4 crunched... But its been a worse day for Chatterpaul than those of us that tore up tickets. He lost Speight of Hand who broke down after the 3rd and was destroyed.

Chatterpaul had a great day he offed that laimo on a curious drop that Andy pointed out for 14...Hooray for racing

freddymo 12-14-2011 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by parsixfarms (Post 825025)
Perhaps worse for Jason Servis who put in a claim for Speight of Hand.

nice tax write off the..Lets hope MMSC gets him on the 2011 Angel list

3kings 12-14-2011 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freddymo (Post 825028)
nice tax write off the..Lets hope MMSC gets him on the 2011 Angel list

Come on Freddy, this is even classless for you.

Coach Pants 12-14-2011 03:14 PM

I didn't get a harumph out of you!

Kasept 12-14-2011 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by parsixfarms (Post 825025)
Perhaps worse for Jason Servis who put in a claim for Speight of Hand.

Yeesh.. That's the worst.

cmorioles 12-14-2011 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 825045)
Yeesh.. That's the worst.

He should have known better.

Kasept 12-14-2011 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmorioles (Post 825047)
He should have known better.

I tend to agree. This was a bad downward spiral.

freddymo 12-14-2011 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3kings (Post 825040)
Come on Freddy, this is even classless for you.

That's the problem...ME ...The horse was a complete laimo that should not have been racing. Yet I am classless..Get a grip bro that horse was patched up and exploded. I get the paying the bills part of the sport but this stuff is really ugly. You thik I like watching hard trying stupid animals not feel themselves 2 minutes before they die at the wire. have a heart

cmorioles 12-14-2011 03:41 PM

This really is the crappy side of racing. Here is an honest trying horse with six wins coming into the day and nearly 200k in earnings. The horse wins an off the turfer for 35k, admittedly an inflated tag for that restricted race, but does so in fast time and gets a 91 Beyer. Off this effort, Gary Gullo clearly knows something is wrong with the horse. He enters him for 14k where he is claimed. I'm sure Gullo breathed a sigh of relief squeezing a few last bucks out of the horse rather than taking his time with and giving him a break.

Now what this guy Chatterpaul was thinking I have no idea. Did he think he hit the lottery that day, getting a bargain, thinking he knew more than Gullo? Or did he think he could squeeze a few bucks out of the horse? I guess that is it since that is exactly what he did. Jason Servis then steps up as the next guy to be fleeced, and probably gets what he deserves too. We hear so much about how bitter and jaded bettors are and that we don't care about horses, but what were these "horsemen" thinking? At no point do I see any of them giving a sh!t about the horse.

3kings 12-14-2011 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freddymo (Post 825058)
That's the problem...ME ...The horse was a complete laimo that should not have been racing. Yet I am classless..Get a grip bro that horse was patched up and exploded. I get the paying the bills part of the sport but this stuff is really ugly. You thik I like watching hard trying stupid animals not feel themselves 2 minutes before they die at the wire. have a heart

My complaint is not with you commenting on the lame horse, I also hate that part of the game. I agree with everything you wrote above. I also enjoy your sarcasm and contributions to this site. My comment was at your shot at the
" angels thread". It's not my favorite thread of the year either but your repeated mentioning of it is petty.

freddymo 12-14-2011 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3kings (Post 825072)
My complaint is not with you commenting on the lame horse, I also hate that part of the game. I agree with everything you wrote above. I also enjoy your sarcasm and contributions to this site. My comment was at your shot at the
" angels thread". It's not my favorite thread of the year either but your repeated mentioning of it is petty.

Understood..

freddymo 12-14-2011 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmorioles (Post 825061)
This really is the crappy side of racing. Here is an honest trying horse with six wins coming into the day and nearly 200k in earnings. The horse wins an off the turfer for 35k, admittedly an inflated tag for that restricted race, but does so in fast time and gets a 91 Beyer. Off this effort, Gary Gullo clearly knows something is wrong with the horse. He enters him for 14k where he is claimed. I'm sure Gullo breathed a sigh of relief squeezing a few last bucks out of the horse rather than taking his time with and giving him a break.

Now what this guy Chatterpaul was thinking I have no idea. Did he think he hit the lottery that day, getting a bargain, thinking he knew more than Gullo? Or did he think he could squeeze a few bucks out of the horse? I guess that is it since that is exactly what he did. Jason Servis then steps up as the next guy to be fleeced, and probably gets what he deserves too. We hear so much about how bitter and jaded bettors are and that we don't care about horses, but what were these "horsemen" thinking? At no point do I see any of them giving a sh!t about the horse.

Chatterpaul was thinking his magic touch could turn him into Khan of Khans for 90 days or lose him off a win to some sucker eitherway GO GO NAPAL

my miss storm cat 12-14-2011 05:09 PM

Wow I was horrified when I read this.

Just to be clear I do look at the selections threads. I don't play every day but I think a few of us play more than some of you guys would think.

I read these after I've made my plays. Sometimes I feel kinda good when a handicapper I respect has made the same choices... sometimes I feel like a complete failure.

It's like why I start some of the congrats you train threads... I have and continue to learn a lot from all of you.

So I get home and want to see what's going on, what I missed and I see this.

Quote:

Originally Posted by freddymo (Post 825028)
nice tax write off the..Lets hope MMSC gets him on the 2011 Angel list

It goes beyond huwting my widdle feewings.

I backed off and gave up on the Final Farewell thread. Why on earth are you still going after me when I won't fight back?

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3kings (Post 825040)
Come on Freddy, this is even classless for you.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3kings (Post 825072)
My complaint is not with you commenting on the lame horse, I also hate that part of the game. I agree with everything you wrote above. I also enjoy your sarcasm and contributions to this site. My comment was at your shot at the
" angels thread". It's not my favorite thread of the year either but your repeated mentioning of it is petty.

Thank you for these posts. I appreciate the first and agree with the 2nd.

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmorioles (Post 825061)
This really is the crappy side of racing. Here is an honest trying horse with six wins coming into the day and nearly 200k in earnings. The horse wins an off the turfer for 35k, admittedly an inflated tag for that restricted race, but does so in fast time and gets a 91 Beyer. Off this effort, Gary Gullo clearly knows something is wrong with the horse. He enters him for 14k where he is claimed. I'm sure Gullo breathed a sigh of relief squeezing a few last bucks out of the horse rather than taking his time with and giving him a break.

Now what this guy Chatterpaul was thinking I have no idea. Did he think he hit the lottery that day, getting a bargain, thinking he knew more than Gullo? Or did he think he could squeeze a few bucks out of the horse? I guess that is it since that is exactly what he did. Jason Servis then steps up as the next guy to be fleeced, and probably gets what he deserves too. We hear so much about how bitter and jaded bettors are and that we don't care about horses, but what were these "horsemen" thinking? At no point do I see any of them giving a sh!t about the horse.

This is really well said. I know you don't care about my opinion but really... good post.

The line about hearing about how bitter and jaded bettors are though... do you mean here or in general?

In general yeah I think there is that false perception.

Here though? No. I have said and others have said that this is not the case. Maybe we need to say it more.

I can back it up but will look like I'm patting myself on the back if I post a link or two, so forget it.

Okay well that's all. It's sad being associated with the most depressing threads.

If anyone ever wants to kinda of take over please do it but if not I can't stop.

I am just trying to be respectful. No matter what any of you think that's all it is.

Say whatever you want, Freddy. Nothing can possibly stun me more than your most recent posts.

I find them really really sad. They make me feel horrible. I guess that's what you were going for so congratulations on your success.

Sorry gentlemen... don't mean to post this crap in this forum but where else can I say it?

It wasn't my idea to be mentioned here.

freddymo 12-14-2011 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat (Post 825092)
Wow I was horrified when I read this.

Just to be clear I do look at the selections threads. I don't play every day but I think a few of us play more than some of you guys would think.

I read these after I've made my plays. Sometimes I feel kinda good when a handicapper I respect has made the same choices... sometimes I feel like a complete failure.

It's like why I start some of the congrats you train threads... I have and continue to learn a lot from all of you.

So I get home and want to see what's going on, what I missed and I see this.



It goes beyond huwting my widdle feewings.

I backed off and gave up on the Final Farewell thread. Why on earth are you still going after me when I won't fight back?





Thank you for these posts. I appreciate the first and agree with the 2nd.



This is really well said. I know you don't care about my opinion but really... good post.

The line about hearing about how bitter and jaded bettors are though... do you mean here or in general?

In general yeah I think there is that false perception.

Here though? No. I have said and others have said that this is not the case. Maybe we need to say it more.

I can back it up but will look like I'm patting myself on the back if I post a link or two, so forget it.

Okay well that's all. It's sad being associated with the most depressing threads.

If anyone ever wants to kinda of take over please do it but if not I can't stop.

I am just trying to be respectful. No matter what any of you think that's all it is.

Say whatever you want, Freddy. Nothing can possibly stun me more than your most recent posts.

I find them really really sad. They make me feel horrible. I guess that's what you were going for so congratulations on your success.

Sorry gentlemen... don't mean to post this crap in this forum but where else can I say it?

It wasn't my idea to be mentioned here.

FREDDY says RELAX come do it

wake up..As my brilliant friend CJ once told me...Freddy horses have been snapping legs at Penn Nat for years

my miss storm cat 12-14-2011 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freddymo (Post 825103)
FREDDY says RELAX come do it

wake up..As my brilliant friend CJ once told me...Freddy horses have been snapping legs at Penn Nat for years

I could understand your tone with me if I had barged into this conversation.

I wouldn't have said a thing had I not been mentioned.

I'm not the ****ing sandbox police. I thought comments here were in bad taste but that's not my job, being a mom on here.

You or anyone wants to make crude comments after some horse breaks down? I won't stop you.

If I'm mentioned though and made fun of I am allowed to respond. That's all I was doing and you know this.

Fighting and explaining why I posted something are differnt things. I'm just doing the latter.


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