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Originally Posted by infield_line
I feel I can say this because I have tried to play Ellis and have invested some effort (and some money) into some of the cards. Casual and even semi-players will walk away because in my opinion, these are erratic, unformal horses for the most part, with a track that has sharp turns and a chute, and that races almost like a bullring. The results unless you want to devote your career to the place.... are unpredictable enough that folks wade in, get their nose bloodied repeatedly... and say "what good is a 4% takeout if the place is uncappable with any rational results?"
Like playing Mountaneer... if you can win there with any consistency...I am genuinely impressed
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When the favs fail at Saratoga, it's simply the Graveyard of Favorites. Del Mar's synthetic surface is causing havoc with cappers. But with Ellis it's somehow the track's fault?
I've said before that I don't like maiden races on any track, but the cheap claimers and low level allowance horses at Ellis appear to run reasonably true at Ellis.
My own poor results are what they are--a fairly small sample of an attempt to do some quick capping. I certainly don't blame Ellis for my poor results.
It's certainly possible that on any given day, the 25% takeout at Saratoga is easier to crack than the 4% at Ellis. My opinion is that the Ellis 4% bet
needs to be supported regardless. Otherwise, the wrong message is being sent to the industry.
--Dunbar