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Old 09-01-2006, 09:17 AM
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Default Can RoundPound beat Fleet Indian ??

Lets hope these two hook up in the distaff.

My question for you. Your opnion who wins this ?

I am crossing my fingers no problems come up in the near future, because I am dying to see these two go at it.
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Old 09-01-2006, 09:18 AM
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Lets hope these two hook up in the distaff.

My question for you. Your opnion who wins this ?

I am crossing my fingers no problems come up in the near future, because I am dying to see these two go at it.
Won't hapeen. Fleet Indian is going to be sold in November. I highly doubt that she runs in the Breeders Cup Distaff.

However, if they did face off in the Distaff, I wouldnt bet either one of them to win. I would prob go with a closer like Balleto. There would be way too much speed in that race for Fleet Indian to go wire to wire and I dont think Round Pound is good enough.
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Old 09-01-2006, 09:22 AM
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Won't hapeen. Fleet Indian is going to be sold in November. I highly doubt that she runs in the Breeders Cup Distaff.

However, if they did face off in the Distaff, I wouldnt bet either one of them to win. I would prob go with a closer like Balleto. There would be way too much speed in that race for Fleet Indian to go wire to wire and I dont think Round Pound is good enough.
Of course shes running in the distaff!!! That sale is after the BC for a reason, because the year is basically done and sellers are gambling that they can get top bucks. Geez Euro wake up!! last year Ashado was announced as being sold in the same sale and she still ran in the BC. What sense does it make to pass up that kinda loot and possibly double the sales value of the horse? Shes running if she has all 4 legs that day.
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Old 09-01-2006, 09:23 AM
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Of course shes running in the distaff!!! That sale is after the BC for a reason, because the year is basically done and sellers are gambling that they can get top bucks. Geez Euro wake up!! last year Ashado was announced as being sold in the same sale and she still ran in the BC. What sense does it make to pass up that kinda loot and possibly double the sales value of the horse? Shes running if she has all 4 legs that day.
I have heard this all before. I would not surprised that she doesnt run at all. I would be more surprised if she did run. I give it a 60-40 chance that she doesnt run.
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Old 09-01-2006, 09:44 AM
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I have heard this all before. I would not surprised that she doesnt run at all. I would be more surprised if she did run. I give it a 60-40 chance that she doesnt run.
Thanks for that Euro, you better let Todd and the owners know pronto because he says that they are shooting for the BC and a possible championship, LOL!! Noone turns down a lottery ticket like that. Shes a grade one winner and worth a locked in 2.5 mill easily no matter what she does now(thats the incredible bottom going rate for a grade one winning filly on the dirt, can you believe this bloodstock market?). They can double or triple her value if she wins the BCC and teh championshop and pick up another mill or more in purse money if she wins the race. Oh, by the way, she has to be shipped to Kentucky for the sale, thats where CD happens to be. If you are gonna ship for a November sale an hour away from where they run a zillion dollar race where you are gonna be one of the faves in, you usually consider the premise, lol. Shes not a colt Euro, her value can't go any lower, its locked in.
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Old 09-01-2006, 09:46 AM
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She certainly has improved since Pletcher took her. Not that she was chopped liver before that, but her improvement is crazy good. That race the other day at Saratoga was a total joke. I saw harness races later on in the evening more entertaining than that.
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Old 09-01-2006, 09:48 AM
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Thanks for that Euro, you better let Todd and the owners know pronto because he says that they are shooting for the BC and a possible championship, LOL!! Noone turns down a lottery ticket like that. Shes a grade one winner and worth a locked in 2.5 mill easily no matter what she does now(thats the incredible bottom going rate for a grade one winning filly on the dirt, can you believe this bloodstock market?). They can double or triple her value if she wins the BCC and teh championshop and pick up another mill or more in purse money if she wins the race. Oh, by the way, she has to be shipped to Kentucky for the sale, thats where CD happens to be. If you are gonna ship for a November sale an hour away from where they run a zillion dollar race where you are gonna be one of the faves in, you usually consider the premise, lol. Shes not a colt Euro, her value can't go any lower, its locked in.
I know the value is locked in, but she is worth nothing if she injures herself and is put down. If it is locked in, then why even take the chance. That is my point. I don't care what Pletcher says or does. We all know you cant believe a trainer in this game. I still think it is 60-40 she doesnt race. And she will go for more than $2.5.
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Old 09-01-2006, 11:26 AM
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I have heard this all before. I would not surprised that she doesnt run at all. I would be more surprised if she did run. I give it a 60-40 chance that she doesnt run.
based on what??? she's on a tremendous streak, beating all comers, the sale won't keep her out...so what in your mind will?
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Old 09-01-2006, 11:27 AM
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based on what??? she's on a tremendous streak, beating all comers, the sale won't keep her out...so what in your mind will?
Again, it is a feeling. We will just wait and see.
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Old 09-01-2006, 09:24 AM
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Fleet Indian isnt the only nice horse Santos rides. Are you forgetting about War Front? Somehow he has earned himself the regular jockey of this very promising sprinter from the Chief.
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Old 09-01-2006, 09:20 AM
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Lets hope these two hook up in the distaff.

My question for you. Your opnion who wins this ?

I am crossing my fingers no problems come up in the near future, because I am dying to see these two go at it.
The only question left to be answered by the Indian is if she can rate because shes been making easy leads in slow fractions. I think she can because she has in the past. Shes just so full of herself now and running so easily and running numbers that are so consistent, thats why she hasnt bounced yet. If she has a chink in her armor its that Santos rides her. Shes currently his only meal ticket and riders tend to make mistakes on meal ticket horses in crunch time when the pressures on. hes never been my favorite rider.
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Old 09-01-2006, 09:21 AM
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Neither, I'm going with Pine Island.
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Old 09-01-2006, 11:24 AM
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Neither, I'm going with Pine Island.

i'm leaning in that direction myself!! like that filly a LOT.
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Old 09-01-2006, 11:28 AM
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i'm leaning in that direction myself!! like that filly a LOT.
Shugs still a master isn't he? Shes gonna go in the Gazelle and try and beat Bushfire to get a shot for divisonal champ. After that I think he may train her up to the Cup. I cant see him going on three weeks rest and then firing back in another prep and then the BC. Just too much. I think the plan is to go in the Gazelle and train up to the Cup.
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Old 09-01-2006, 11:29 AM
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Shugs still a master isn't he? Shes gonna go in the Gazelle and try and beat Bushfire to get a shot for divisonal champ. After that I think he may train her up to the Cup. I cant see him going on three weeks rest and then firing back in another prep and then the BC. Just too much. I think the plan is to go in the Gazelle and train up to the Cup.
What happend to Shugs horse that won it last year?
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Old 09-01-2006, 11:35 AM
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Shugs still a master isn't he? Shes gonna go in the Gazelle and try and beat Bushfire to get a shot for divisonal champ. After that I think he may train her up to the Cup. I cant see him going on three weeks rest and then firing back in another prep and then the BC. Just too much. I think the plan is to go in the Gazelle and train up to the Cup.
that sounds right. shugs one of the all time greats, esp with the fillies and mares.
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Old 09-01-2006, 02:03 PM
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just read the write up in the newest bhorse (i love the mail on fridays!) and duh me! didn't realize til today that the guy who bought fleet indian in january is none other than Saylor, who owned ashado.
now i really think she's in the gate nov 4.....

they plan for her to go next in the beldame.
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Old 09-01-2006, 09:22 AM
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The only question left to be answered by the Indian is if she can rate because shes been making easy leads in slow fractions. I think she can because she has in the past. Shes just so full of herself now and running so easily and running numbers that are so consistent, thats why she hasnt bounced yet. If she has a chink in her armor its that Santos rides her. Shes currently his only meal ticket and riders tend to make mistakes on meal ticket horses in crunch time when the pressures on. hes never been my favorite rider.
I also think she can rate but Santos is a minus like you said. But there are some good horses in that division. Pine Island, Bushfire, Balletto, Happy Ticket, Oonagh McCool, Round Pound and Fleet Indian. It would be a real real good race. Not sure if the above horses would show up, but nonetheless it would be a good race.
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