8/30 (SAR): Forego; Woodward (Gr. I's)

[SniperSB23]

9th (5:13) Forego S. (G1)

7 Furlongs | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $250,000

2 First Defence Hill C 119 L
1 Forefathers Prado E S 117 L
3 Eternal Star Velazquez J R 117 L
4 Bold Start Albarado R J 117 L
1A Ferocious Fires Velasquez C 117 L
5 Premium Wine Leparoux J R 117 L
6 Real Estate Coa E M 117 L
7 Lucky Island (ARG) Garcia Alan 121 L
8 Greeley's Conquest Chavez J F 117 L
9 Tasteyville Luzzi M J 117 L

A-Coupled: Forefathers and Premium Wine



10th (5:45) Woodward S. (G1)

1 1/8 Miles | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $500,000

1 A. P. Arrow Velasquez C 126 Blk-Off L
2 Loose Leaf Coa E M 126 L
3 Past the Point Prado E S 126 L
4 Divine Park Garcia Alan 126 L
5 Curlin Albarado R J 126 L
6 Dr. D. F. C. Arboleda A 126 L
7 Out of Control (BRZ) Velazquez J R 126 L
8 Wanderin Boy Leparoux J R 126 L



Zero speed in the Woodward aside from Wanderin Boy. Can Wanderin Boy steal it? I think he's extremely likely to run top two and if Curlin has some bad luck could steal it.

[ateamstupid]

I asked Andy the same question earlier this week, and though I'm not sure if it's likely, it's definitely possible. How interesting would this race be if Commentator were entered?

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

I asked Andy the same question earlier this week, and though I'm not sure if it's likely, it's definitely possible. How interesting would this race be if Commentator were entered?

Assuming he was entered instead of Wanderin Boy it would be extremely interesting. If Zito entered both then he'd be a moron. I think the 8 horse field really works in Wanderin Boy's favor. It increases the chance of Curlin getting a rough trip and increases the likelihood that Wanderin Boy gets forgotten on the lead.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Assuming he was entered instead of Wanderin Boy it would be extremely interesting. If Zito entered both then he'd be a moron. I think the 8 horse field really works in Wanderin Boy's favor. It increases the chance of Curlin getting a rough trip and increases the likelihood that Wanderin Boy gets forgotten on the lead.

That's what I mean, Commentator instead of Wanderin Boy.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

That's what I mean, Commentator instead of Wanderin Boy.

Thing is Commentator would be bet. Wanderin Boy might actually go off at a price. So as a fan I'd love to see Commentator in this field, as a bettor I'm liking Wanderin Boy here.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Thing is Commentator would be bet. Wanderin Boy might actually go off at a price. So as a fan I'd love to see Commentator in this field, as a bettor I'm liking Wanderin Boy here.

Yeah, I just don't know if he's good enough, but we'll see.

[Norfolk]

Entries for the Woodward Stakes


The field for the Woodward Stakes (G1), in post position order, with trainer, jockey, and morning-line odds:

1. A.P. Arrow, Todd Pletcher, Cornelio Velasquez, 20-1;

2. Loose Leaf, Ken McPeek, Eibar Coa, 15-1;

3. Past the Point, Eoin Harty, Edgar Prado, 15-1;

4. Divine Park, Kiaran McLaughlin, Alan Garcia, 3-1;

5. Curlin, Steve Asmussen, Robby Albarado, 3-5;

6. Dr. D.F.C., Rodrigo Ubillo, Aldo Arboleda, 50-1;

7. Out of Control, Bobby Frankel, John Velazquez, 12-1; and

8. Wanderin Boy, Nick Zito, Julien Leparoux, 8-1.

[-BT-]

Originally Posted by Norfolk

Entries for the Woodward Stakes


The field for the Woodward Stakes (G1), in post position order, with trainer, jockey, and morning-line odds:

1. A.P. Arrow, Todd Pletcher, Cornelio Velasquez, 20-1;

2. Loose Leaf, Ken McPeek, Eibar Coa, 15-1;

3. Past the Point, Eoin Harty, Edgar Prado, 15-1;

4. Divine Park, Kiaran McLaughlin, Alan Garcia, 3-1;

5. Curlin, Steve Asmussen, Robby Albarado, 3-5;

6. Dr. D.F.C., Rodrigo Ubillo, Aldo Arboleda, 50-1;

7. Out of Control, Bobby Frankel, John Velazquez, 12-1; and

8. Wanderin Boy, Nick Zito, Julien Leparoux, 8-1.

Dr. D.F.C ..... uh huh

glad to see Curlin has some workout partners, didn't think this field was gonna be over 5

-bt-

[Gander]

I think Loose Leaf is more deserving of a key to the city than Curlin is, at least based on his resume here. What has Curlin ever done here to deserve a key? He has no ties to here. Give Loose Leaf the key.

[cakes44]

Odds on Out of Control scratching?

[fpsoxfan]

Over/Under on how many lengths Dr. D.F.C. loses by?

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Zero speed in the Woodward aside from Wanderin Boy. Can Wanderin Boy steal it? I think he's extremely likely to run top two and if Curlin has some bad luck could steal it.

no PP's in front of me, but in a field like this, wouldn't you consider Divine Park also as part of the speed equation?

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

no PP's in front of me, but in a field like this, wouldn't you consider Divine Park also as part of the speed equation?

I can't see Divine Park pressing Wanderin Boy early, he's going to be more converned with where Curlin is. Past the Point seems more likely to be second early and he doesn't have the speed to push Wanderin Boy without destroying the slim chances he has.

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

I can't see Divine Park pressing Wanderin Boy early, he's going to be more converned with where Curlin is. Past the Point seems more likely to be second early and he doesn't have the speed to push Wanderin Boy without destroying the slim chances he has.

just pulled up the pp's, Pass The Point pressing Wanderin Boy? you'll have to point me to the race where he has shown that kind of speed.
On the other hand, Divine Park can easily cruise on the front end with WB.

to answer your first question, no I don't think WB can steal it.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

just pulled up the pp's, Pass The Point pressing Wanderin Boy? you'll have to point me to the race where he has shown that kind of speed.On the other hand, Divine Park can easily cruise on the front end with WB.

to answer your first question, no I don't think WB can steal it.

Isn't that exactly what I said? That he figures to sit second early but doesn't have the speed to push Wanderin Boy. I don't think they will put Divine Park near the front. I think the last thing they want to do is duel with Wanderin Boy and hand the race to Curlin.

I'll throw up if Divine Park wins.

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Isn't that exactly what I said? That he figures to sit second early but doesn't have the speed to push Wanderin Boy. I don't think they will put Divine Park near the front. I think the last thing they want to do is duel with Wanderin Boy and hand the race to Curlin.

I don't get why Divine Park, who has more speed than Wanderin Boy, in a race that lacks a lot of speed, would consider throttling back, behind such slow horses as Pass The Point. I can't see Divine Park any further back then second by a length, and wouldn't be shocked to see him set the fractions.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Isn't that exactly what I said? That he figures to sit second early but doesn't have the speed to push Wanderin Boy. I don't think they will put Divine Park near the front. I think the last thing they want to do is duel with Wanderin Boy and hand the race to Curlin.

The only other time Divine Park went two turns, he went directly to the lead. But this isnt a five horse AOC at the Big A inner. Why would they risk dueling it out with Wanderin Boy and setting it up for Curlin? It seems like Divine Park is quite tractable (wanderin boy doesnt seem so) and it seems he runs pretty well coming from a few lengths back of the pace.

Sorry to say but i dont think Wanderin boy can steal it. He just isnt classy enough and it seems that extra turn and the better horses always end up getting the better of him. No knock on Wanderin Boy though.

[Gander]

No Benny. And what happened to Fabulous Strike? Looks like a marquee showdown between Tasteyville & Premium Wine. Give the winner a red carpet ride to the BC Sprint and the Eclipse Award.

9th (5:13) Forego S. (G1)

7 Furlongs | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $250,000

2 First Defence Hill C 119 L
1 Forefathers Prado E S 117 L
3 Eternal Star Velazquez J R 117 L
4 Bold Start Albarado R J 117 L
1A Ferocious Fires Velasquez C 117 L
5 Premium Wine Leparoux J R 117 L
6 Real Estate Coa E M 117 L
7 Lucky Island (ARG) Garcia Alan 121 L
8 Greeley's Conquest Chavez J F 117 L
9 Tasteyville Luzzi M J 117 L

A-Coupled: Forefathers and Premium Wine

[ateamstupid]

It's a marquee showdown between two horses who got dusted by Lucky Island?

The race has no stars, but it at least looks like a good betting affair.