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Old 03-23-2007, 10:43 PM
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giacomo and monarchos were at least both stakes placed at this point
Monarchos had only won an nw1 at GP. He ran in his first stake in the Fla Derby...I know this because i ran 2nd to him with Outofthebox...
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Old 03-23-2007, 10:45 PM
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You guys are really emptying the barn at Turfway tomorrow.
Yea, a little ambitious. I will be at the big A with Golden Dreamer..
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Old 03-23-2007, 10:45 PM
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Monarchos had only won an nw1 at GP. He ran in his first stake in the Fla Derby...I know this because i ran 2nd to him with Outofthebox...

That Florida Derby had already been run by now.
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Old 03-23-2007, 10:50 PM
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Yea, a little ambitious. I will be at the big A with Golden Dreamer..

I would rather be in NY as well.

Ambitious for sure but I guess people would have said the same thing about NY Hero four years ago. With all the people ducking races these days, whether you like Ernie or not, at least he shows up. It's certainly worked for the Chief over the years.
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Old 03-23-2007, 10:51 PM
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That Florida Derby had already been run by now.
come to think of it your right. Hialeah was hosting the Flamingo on April 7tj. Could that have been the last meeting Hialeah ran. 2001
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Old 03-23-2007, 10:53 PM
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come to think of it your right. Hialeah was hosting the Flamingo on April 7tj. Could that have been the last meeting Hialeah ran. 2001
It was the last meet. I was recently perusing the lifetime pps of a horse and came across starts at Hialeah in 2001. This is only the third year that Stronach has run the Florida Derby this late.
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Old 03-23-2007, 11:07 PM
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It was the last meet. I was recently perusing the lifetime pps of a horse and came across starts at Hialeah in 2001. This is only the third year that Stronach has run the Florida Derby this late.
The Florida Derby should be earlier....Of course Barbaro won with it, but I still preferred when it was earlier.
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Old 03-23-2007, 11:09 PM
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The Florida Derby should be earlier....Of course Barbaro won with it, but I still preferred when it was earlier.

I agree....it was a much better race as the premier second to last prep. Stronach and his new paradigm!
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Old 03-23-2007, 11:10 PM
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I agree....it was a much better race as the premier second to last prep. Stronach and his new paradigm!
I still can't believe I bet Friends Lake and he won it. I thought the group was awful and I took a flier. And he won it, and boy was it slow. But I'm not complaining.
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Old 03-23-2007, 11:14 PM
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Was that the Fla. Derby that Value Plus ran second? If so I'm still bitter about it.
Yep, RTFoot Notes was the fave and finished 4th I believe.
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Old 03-23-2007, 11:23 PM
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War Emblem, Monarchos, Giacomo, just a few of the Ky
Derby winners in since 2000. I wonder if any of these winners would have been on any top ten lists at this stage. Point is that there is still so much time before the Derby and horses can go either way so quickly. I enjoy reading everyones list, and just wonder how much changing will be going on in the next few weeks after the major preps. In all likely hood the winner of the Derby might not have won his final prep.
I would put Funny Cide on that list with the 3 you mentioned as well, as the Wood hadn't been run yet and he had finished 5th in the Holy Bull and 3rd in the La Derby. People weren't jumping on this horse either in late March 2003.
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Old 03-23-2007, 11:25 PM
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I would put Funny Cide on that list with the 3 you mentioned as well, as the Wood hadn't been run yet and he had finished 5th in the Holy Bull and 3rd in the La Derby. People weren't jumping on this horse either in late March 2003.
Good point. He was around 90-1 in the first Derby futures pool.
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Old 03-23-2007, 11:28 PM
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Good point. He was around 90-1 in the first Derby futures pool.
Paid 188.00 for pool 1.
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Old 03-26-2007, 11:13 AM
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Yeah Giacomo was 26-1 in the first pool, I believe. ANd 50-1 or so on derby day. Just really makes you wonder why play a future pool. Although if you had Funny Cide at 90-1 by all means...
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