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Old 03-22-2007, 09:17 PM
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drum roll please.....

no 10 c q..was not impressed at all..still not sold

no 9 great hunter looked ok out west but hey thats out west

no 8 natonal his fg run leaves questions in my mind

no 7 curlin keeps showing some good stuff

no 6 street sence ..the toll may take its course

no 5 stormello love the way he runs period

no 4 cobolt blue has the right stuff

no 3 adore the gold when push comes to shove he will be in the mix

no 2 nobiz like showbiz.. weather or not the kinks get worked out hes a runner

no 1 chroklee..he will win the ill derby and roll in the kd..
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Old 03-22-2007, 09:34 PM
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I love Chelokee he is flying low could get a good price on him
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Old 03-22-2007, 10:37 PM
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posters chime in and tell me how wrong i am..
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Old 03-22-2007, 10:46 PM
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drum roll please.....

no 10 c q..was not impressed at all..still not sold

no 9 great hunter looked ok out west but hey thats out west

no 8 natonal his fg run leaves questions in my mind

no 7 curlin keeps showing some good stuff

no 6 street sence ..the toll may take its course

no 5 stormello love the way he runs period

no 4 cobolt blue has the right stuff

no 3 adore the gold when push comes to shove he will be in the mix

no 2 nobiz like showbiz.. weather or not the kinks get worked out hes a runner

no 1 chroklee..he will win the ill derby and roll in the kd..
While each entitled to our own opinion, I can't imagine there are ten 3YOs better than Any Given Saturday right now, or five better than Street Sense. Cobalt Blue and Adore the Gold are outsiders right now in my opinion. Nobiz is the same horse he was five months ago and that's a problem. Chelokee ran a bang-up allowance race, but it was just that, an allowance race. Very hard to put that performance ahead of some of the stakes races we've seen.

Anyway, that's just my opinion. Glad to see so much discussion and thanks for putting up your list.

NT
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Old 03-22-2007, 10:46 PM
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Hooves,
I like your list, especially since there haven't been very many darkhorses to surprise anyone yet. Nobiz, Street Sense, Great Hunter, Circular Quay, Stormello, Any Given Saturday, etc...they've all been on everyone's radar since last Fall.
A horse like Chelokee, For you Reppo or Curlin could turn out to be a late blooming monster.

Still, until I see something more, I'm sticking with the same trio that ran 1-2-3 in the Breeders Cup Juvy and Breeders Futurity. Great hunter, CQ and street sense.
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Old 03-22-2007, 10:52 PM
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I've been ranking them on my blog lately, and while I've thought Street Sense has been the man since the Arlington race, I'm still not going to put him on top just yet.

1. Notional
2. Street Sense
3. Great Hunter
4. Circular Quay
5. Any Given Saturday
6. Ketchikan
7. Stormello
8. Nobiz Like Shobiz
9. For You Reppo
10. Sam P.

Close mentions for Curlin and Adore the Gold. Not that enamored with many of the others. I don't think Scat Daddy will have any business at the distance, and I think that horses like Chelokee will become wiseguy horses a la SNS last year.
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Old 03-22-2007, 11:18 PM
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1. Great Hunter
2.-10. who cares!
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Old 03-22-2007, 11:44 PM
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None of you have the winner on your top ten list:

SCAT DADDY
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Old 03-22-2007, 11:48 PM
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None of you have the winner on your top ten list:

SCAT DADDY

I was watching the Fountain of Youth again last night. I'm not sure I've seen too many horses who are in full out drives for a half mile actually win a race ( that is since Ramon Encinas disappeared ).

I have no idea what to make of that performance but if he wins the Derby I'll be shocked beyond belief.
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I was watching the Fountain of Youth again last night. I'm not sure I've seen too many horses who are in full out drives for a half mile actually win a race ( that is since Ramon Encinas disappeared ).

I have no idea what to make of that performance but if he wins the Derby I'll be shocked beyond belief.
Good... I can hardly wait until the first weekend in May.
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Old 03-22-2007, 11:54 PM
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I thought a son of Tiznow was winning it this year?
That was my vibe, dawlin. One of those weird, crystal ball like vibes. (And yes, I've been drinking tonight. I'm entitled. )
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Old 03-22-2007, 11:56 PM
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Good... I can hardly wait until the first weekend in May.
He's a complete non-contender.
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Old 03-22-2007, 11:58 PM
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He's a complete non-contender.
I'm loving this. Remind me tomorrow why I decided to drink tonight.
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Old 03-23-2007, 01:02 AM
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1. Street Sense
2. Nobiz
3. Great Hunter

after these its a mess. Nobiz and Street Sense will most likely improve. Great Hunter has exactly what it takes methinks. Nobiz and Street Sense have so much talent and upside...
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Old 03-23-2007, 01:48 AM
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Educate me about this Chelokee...why do people like him...a horse that has won 2 of 5 and has he ever run in a stake?? By this point last year SNS had already run two 1000 plus Beyers.
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Old 03-23-2007, 02:32 AM
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Educate me about this Chelokee...why do people like him...a horse that has won 2 of 5 and has he ever run in a stake?? By this point last year SNS had already run two 1000 plus Beyers.
who are you? pointgiven1985???
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Old 03-23-2007, 02:37 AM
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This horse has no chance unless he shows vast improvement.
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Old 03-23-2007, 08:22 AM
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who are you? pointgiven1985???
LOL, a 1000 beyer.
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Old 03-23-2007, 09:01 AM
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Just my take and of course subject to change

1. Nobiz- Still think we havent seen his best, but time is running and out and blinker experiment in Wood has to work

2. Any Given Saturday- Loved his run in TB Derby. Horse is a runner plain and simple

3. Circular Quay- I have read all the talk about him on these boards but I feel he will get right set up Derby Day and will be a part of mix. Of course he needs luck but so do they all that day

4. Notional- Seems very professional at every step. Fla Derby needs to be one more step forward

5. Street Sense- BC Juvy champ surprised me with his comeback. yet need one more still and need to see him overcome some adversity before I personally move hm higher

6. Great Hunter- Still not enamored with him. Though Cal race was Ok. Is bred to run all day and that in itself is a plus

7. Hard Spun- Too early to give up yet, but poor showing Saturday drops him off my list

8. Stormello- Still love his guts. another runner

9. Sam P- Reminds me of Invisible Ink from a few years back. Little bit of a grinder who could spice up exotics in derby. Like his progression

10. Liquidity- My early pick, and will keep him here again and give him one more shot in SA Derby
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Old 03-23-2007, 09:33 AM
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1. Street Sense
2. Nobiz
3. Great Hunter

after these its a mess. Nobiz and Street Sense will most likely improve. Great Hunter has exactly what it takes methinks. Nobiz and Street Sense have so much talent and upside...
i agree those are the big 3, street sense and great hunter and proven, nobiz has some issues but if he gets going in the proper direction he's as good or better then the other 2
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