7/16 (HOL): American Oaks (G1), A Gleam (G2), Landaluce S.

[Kasept]

4th (2:34) Landaluce S.

6 Furlongs (All Weather Track) | Fillies | 2 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $100,000

1 Woebegon Pedroza M A 117 L
2 Killer Graces Talamo J 120 L
3 Stayclassysandiego Espinoza V 117
4 Mighty Caroline Rosario J 117 L
5 Chloe W Bejarano R 115 L
6 Son de America Baze T C 117



6th (3:36) American Oaks S. (G1)

1 1/4 Miles (Turf) | Fillies | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $250,000

1 Entrustment Quinonez A 121 L
2 Love Theway Youare Espinoza V 121 L
3 Nereid Talamo J 121 L
4 Cambina (IRE) Garcia M 121 L
5 Star Billing Rosario J 121 L
6 Bizzy Caroline Bejarano R 121 L



9th (5:07) A Gleam H. (G2)

7 Furlongs (All Weather Track) | Fillies and Mares | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $200,000

1 Church Camp Quinonez A 114 L
2 Fund Raiser Bejarano R 118 L
3 American Story Rosario J 115 Blk-On L
4 Ultra Blend Flores D R 119 L
5 Irish Gypsy Garcia M 120 L
6 Mildly Offensive Sutherland C 112 L
7 Washington Bridge Talamo J 115 L
8 Tanda Espinoza V 117 L
9 Shotgun Gulch Smith M E 119 L

[NTamm1215]

No love for the American Oaks?

[RolloTomasi]

Did Mildly Offensive end up running at Hollywood this whole meet?

After her two monster wins at Santa Anita, there was talk of races like the Acorn, Eight Belles, Prioress, etc.

If she does well this weekend, I hope they wheel back in the Test.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

No love for the American Oaks?

I don't like her running style, but Love Theway Youare has some interesting turf breeding, being by Arch out of a Tabasco Cat mare. While not the greatest sire in the world, Tabasco Cat's progeny seem to do well on turf.

Furthermore, the 3rd dam is the great turf mare Sabin.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Did Mildly Offensive end up running at Hollywood this whole meet?

After her two monster wins at Santa Anita, there was talk of races like the Acorn, Eight Belles, Prioress, etc.

If she does well this weekend, I hope they wheel back in the Test.

She ran in the Manhattan Beach on turf and fared poorly. She's been campaigned with no confidence it would seem.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

She ran in the Manhattan Beach on turf and fared poorly. She's been campaigned with no confidence it would seem.

Yeah, I went and looked at the stakes nom PPs on the track website. She wasn't even favored in that inconsequential turf race.

She had a big reputation at Santa Anita. Pretty sure she got a hefty Beyer at least for the maiden win.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Yeah, I went and looked at the stakes nom PPs on the track website. She wasn't even favored in that inconsequential turf race.

She had a big reputation at Santa Anita. Pretty sure she got a hefty Beyer at least for the maiden win.

Another talented horse about to get buried by synthetic surfaces. Didn't anyone learn anything from Nicole H?

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Another talented horse about to get buried by synthetic surfaces. Didn't anyone learn anything from Nicole H?

The thing is, you can't beat California weather.

The irony being that it has all-weather racing surfaces.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Another talented horse about to get buried by synthetic surfaces. Didn't anyone learn anything from Nicole H?

If the race was at Del Mar I would agree with you but dirt form does hold up well at Hollywood. Distance and company is more of an issue with her then surface in this instance.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

No love for the American Oaks?

By the way, are you going to change your avatar, or are you waiting for Godolphin to win with something in this country, too?

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

By the way, are you going to change your avatar, or are you waiting for Godolphin to win with something in this country, too?

Took care of it for you.

[GPK]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Took care of it for you.

John Lovitz?

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by GPK

John Lovitz?

Not a chance, he could get Twirling Candy to go 10 furlongs.

[GPK]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Not a chance, he could get Twirling Candy to go 10 furlongs.

I laughed.

[VOL JACK]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

No love for the American Oaks?

Boy that used to be a decent race.

[Dahoss]

How about Tanda in the A Gleam?

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

How about Tanda in the A Gleam?

Her campaign has been awfully odd. I really liked her as a 3YO and was waiting for her to come back this year. Instead of the Las Flores on dirt, Hendricks went with the downhill race. That Milady was a disaster from the start, then she just got a little tired last time.

I like her on Saturday because she has enough speed to stay close and there's not a lot of pace in there at all. Her darkened form should help get a decent price too.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Her campaign has been awfully odd. I really liked her as a 3YO and was waiting for her to come back this year. Instead of the Las Flores on dirt, Hendricks went with the downhill race. That Milady was a disaster from the start, then she just got a little tired last time.

I like her on Saturday because she has enough speed to stay close and there's not a lot of pace in there at all. Her darkened form should help get a decent price too.

That barn seems to have trouble getting their better horses back to form after going to the bench. Rigoletta was retired after 2 starts following an injury after the Oak Leaf. Daytona struggled for over a year trying to comeback and then was retired after scratching from his comeback. Brother Derek ran a handful of times after the Triple Crown, but was nowhere near the same horse. Indian Sun, who placed in a couple of Derby preps, made a couple starts when he returned, but then disappeared. Beresford, a promising juvenile in 2007, ultimately dropped into claimers when he resurfaced.

Like you say, though, Tanda has been campaigned oddly. It's kind of surprising they wheeled her back two weeks after the Milady to run in a turf race. They ran the Desert Stormer, 6f on the main track, two weeks after that. Seemed like the perfect race to "reboot" for the A Gleam and the rest of the season.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Scav

If the race was at Del Mar I would agree with you but dirt form does hold up well at Hollywood. Distance and company is more of an issue with her then surface in this instance.

Do you have any stats to back this up? I hear this notion a lot, but I've yet to see any hard evidence behind it.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Do you have any stats to back this up? I hear this notion a lot, but I've yet to see any hard evidence behind it.

No stats, just from my handicapping experiences and seeing the results and paying attention as much as I do. I wouldn't even know how to find the stats to back up the opinion.