Was Masochistic stiffed in his debut? - Page 3

Danzig · #41 02-28-2015, 10:24 PM

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...-fined-by-chrb

Aly-Sheba · #42 03-08-2015, 11:27 PM

Should be fun to see if this can be even better with Ron Ellis now training

Indian Charlie · #43 03-09-2015, 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Aly-Sheba

Should be fun to see if this can be even better with Ron Ellis now training

He will try to get him into the malibu

pointman · #44 03-09-2015, 12:41 PM

Somehow I get the feeling that AC cashed a lot more on Derby Day than the $10K he was fined.

jnunan4759 · #45 03-09-2015, 10:11 PM

I would hope he made a lot more for that type of crookery. This was cold, calculating fraud. Derby Day ? Some of the biggest mutuel pools around. There was no accidents here. I knew something was wrong when I watched the race live.

Usually you are watching for Performance Enhancing Drugs, not the opposite. Ace is like Xanax and I've used it for years especially when shipping horses, sales, breeding and relocations. It's not good for good racing performances, it's a detriment. Imagine yourself trying to run a race with a few Xanax's in you. You're not exactly sharp.

As far as horse welfare, this is probably less dangerous than the opposite, however still does have dangers. 40 times sounds like a lot but with low thresholds, is not as big as it seems. The horse was most likely fine but not able to run to his ability. It wasn't like he was drunk or stoned, but he wasn't able to run as he may have. I'm more against the PED stuff, where a horse is "juiced" for a race. that is more dangerous.

I think the most compelling issue is that the horse-playing public who follow the races all know this was crookery. We hate this stuff. Whether we won or lost, we hate this. I think I may have won on him because I thought it was a weird move for AC to ship and run in this race. It was just a hunch.

I'd toss him 10 years. Fines are just to get money for the Racing Commission budget. The fine amount depends on how much money you have now and you can be assured they look at bank accounts and assets before they assess fines. Suspensions affect future earnings.

Guys holding horses and trainers not running fit horses are something that has always been there and always will. Zito, Mott, Shug with FTS's. Pletcher with FTS's, ready to go. That's fine. Also "Prep" races. It's been around forever. Drugs make it different. Apparently AC didn't think the jockey could do a good job convincing the crowd.

They got to toss some of these people.