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Old 04-22-2015, 07:21 AM
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Default Off-Shore Derby Odds and Head-to-Heads

The off-shore win odds haven't changed much since I last posted in the Ky Derby thread. Frosted and Firing Line have both come down slightly from earlier 20-1's.

Here's the current best odds using just 5Dimes and Bookmaker:

AMERICAN PHAROAH, 3 --Bookmaker
DORTMUND, 5
CARPEDIEM, 8.5
MUBTAAHIJ, 12
MATERIALITY, 14.15 --Bookmaker
FROSTED, 17.95 --Bookmaker
FIRING LINE, 18
UPSTART, 25
INTERNATIONAL STAR, 25
EL KABEIR, 40
BOLO, 45.5 --Bookmaker
FAR RIGHT, 50
WAR STORY, 50
OCHO OCHO OCHO, 60
DANZIG MOON, 50

ITSAKNOCKOUT, 60.5 --Bookmaker
TENCENDUR, 70
Keen Ice, 66
Madefromlucky, 66
STANFORD, 70
Bold Conquest, 70
Mr. Z, 66
Frammento, 85.5 --Bookmaker
Metaboss, 150
Firespike, 150
Toasting Master, 150

These odds as a group are pretty generous. The line corresponds to a 9.3% takeout.

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Old 04-22-2015, 07:32 AM
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Bookmaker.com has some head-to-head bets. How about this one?

BOB BAFFERT, -175
TOOD PLETCHER, +150

I'm glad that TOOD, Todd's younger brother, is finally getting some recognition.


Here are some other matchups at Bookmaker:

DORTMUND +125
AMERICAN PHAROAH -145

CARPE DIEM +135
AMERICAN PHAROAH -160

CARPE DIEM +115
DORTMUND -135

FIRING LINE +105
FROSTED -125

EL KABEIR +135
MUBTAAHIJ -155

INTERNATIONAL STAR +140
MATERIALITY -165

FAR RIGHT -120
WAR STORY EV

FRAMMENTO
KEEN ICE

STANFORD +135
DANZIG MOON -155

CARPE DIEM -145
MATERIALITY +125

FAR RIGHT +115
INTERNATIONAL STAR -135

EL KABEIR +150
UPSTART -175

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Old 04-22-2015, 09:53 AM
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those are some pretty tight head to head match-ups....don't see much value screaming off the paper there.

thanks for posting

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Old 04-22-2015, 11:30 AM
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good stuff, as always, Dunbar - Thank you for posting it

I agree with -BT- regarding tight match-ups
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Old 04-22-2015, 11:32 AM
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Upstart- the fastest on TG and amongst the fastest on every data at 25-1. Like a lot, I don't think he will carry it the last furlong, but man you have to hit that.
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