5/2 (CD): 141st Kentucky Derby (G1); 6 Graded Stakes Undercard

[Sightseek]

So does Ocho Ocho Ocho get sent?

[alysheba4]

yes and since he has to make a immediate right turn to avoid crashing into thr rail...... he will prob. slam both Pletcher horses.

[outofthebox]

Originally Posted by alysheba4

yes and since he has to make a immediate right turn to avoid crashing into thr rail...... he will prob. slam both Pletcher horses.

Funny, thought the same. Don't know how Baffert can be any happier than having Upstart and Far Right drawing outside.

[alysheba4]

if he breaks clean, Materiality and firing line will be dueling for the lead.

[casp0555]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

So does Ocho Ocho Ocho get sent?

has to...as do the two Pletcher's to his outside. What I see that could be a real problem for AP is that he has never started outside of Post 6 and he will have a wall of horses to his inside to navigate around or through to get into the preferred stalking position just behind the rabbits....

AP sitting just off Dortmund about 4 lengths behind the pacesetters at the top of the stretch with Upstart and Tencender closing fast as they cross the wire ahhh... but what the hell do I know

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by casp0555

has to...as do the two Pletcher's to his outside. What I see that could be a real problem for AP is that he has never started outside of Post 6 and he will have a wall of horses to his inside to navigate around or through to get into the preferred stalking position just behind the rabbits....

AP sitting just off Dortmund about 4 lengths behind the pacesetters at the top of the stretch with Upstart and Tencender closing fast as they cross the wire ahhh... but what the hell do I know

I actually just read a tweet quoting Ocho's trainer following the draw and he said they were planning to take back to be in the second flight.

[pmayjr]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

I actually just read a tweet quoting Ocho's trainer following the draw and he said they were planning to take back to be in the second flight.

Too bad for Ochox3 that he doesn't have a plodder right to his ooutside. If that were the case, he could've been gunned out of the gate to get positioning.

I think with the 2 speedy Pletchers to his outside, he has no choice but to take back now. But maybe that's for the best. But he can't hang with the top speed anyway.

(Please save the snide remarks about how he can't hang with anyone regardless of post lol... trust me, you're not original)

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by casp0555

has to...as do the two Pletcher's to his outside. What I see that could be a real problem for AP is that he has never started outside of Post 6 and he will have a wall of horses to his inside to navigate around or through to get into the preferred stalking position just behind the rabbits....

AP sitting just off Dortmund about 4 lengths behind the pacesetters at the top of the stretch with Upstart and Tencender closing fast as they cross the wire ahhh... but what the hell do I know

The one is in a precarious position, as always.
as for the two outside, they can possibly tuck in behind...but, good luck with that with a typical front runner...Either way, an iffy proposition. So much luck involved, because you might break well...but what about the guy inside of you? Xs 19!

Have to think dortmunds chances improved a bit with the eight hole.

And it seems it will be a hot pace, but so often it looks that way, and then doesnt materialize.