2015: American Pharoah becomes 12th Triple Crown winner

[SundayStar]

the 1 hole is definitely a challenge for American Pharaoh. the derby pace was perceived as slow, so i think we can expect a quick pace in the Preakness. Mr Z will almost certainly jump out there and try to get control. i'm sure Lukas is hoping he can pull off an Oxbow type run. so i think there's a good chance that a couple horses will have to crossover in front of American Pharaoh which means kickback. hopefully Espinoza can work out a good trip.

[Indian Charlie]

It's amusing how a very short time ago people thought AP was a dedicated front runner that needs the lead. Now getting out run early is the concern.

[ateamstupid]

Lukas: We’re probably not talented enough to stay around (w/Mr. Z) but someone else could be compromised because of it.

Great reason for entering.

[3kings]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Lukas: We’re probably not talented enough to stay around (w/Mr. Z) but someone else could be compromised because of it.

Great reason for entering.

Lol. Let me screw up the race to make me relevant again.

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by 3kings

Lol. Let me screw up the race to make me relevant again.

DWL will always be relevant, haters will hate but this guy is perhaps the greatest trainer ever, certainly in the mix. When he was winning everything in sight, folks criticized him for running his horses too often (the same folks who cried about the frail nature of the thoroughbred and the conservative nature of most trainers), now days when he has been eclipsed win-wise by younger trainers (many who learned their craft under him) folks question him relentlessly for entering "hopeless longshots" while complaining about short fields in stake races...haters gonna hate! I will not be at all surprised if Mr Z ends up in the winners circle Saturday but even if he runs dead last, my respect for the great DWL will be maintained!

[-BT-]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

DWL will always be relevant, haters will hate but this guy is perhaps the greatest trainer ever, certainly in the mix. When he was winning everything in sight, folks criticized him for running his horses too often (the same folks who cried about the frail nature of the thoroughbred and the conservative nature of most trainers), now days when he has been eclipsed win-wise by younger trainers (many who learned their craft under him) folks question him relentlessly for entering "hopeless longshots" while complaining about short fields in stake races...haters gonna hate! I will not be at all surprised if Mr Z ends up in the winners circle Saturday but even if he runs dead last, my respect for the great DWL will be maintained!

like him or not, HOF or not, if he indeed entered this horse with this mentality, then its poor judgement, and i feel sorry for those who wager on him.

sticking around making comments like this, overruling an owner to the point of having the horse sold to prove that you know you're probably not good enough but your entry could compromise others is a flawed mentality and he's become more like Gennadi Dorochenko with his horse entry/placement

-bt-

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

DWL will always be relevant, haters will hate but this guy is perhaps the greatest trainer ever, certainly in the mix. When he was winning everything in sight, folks criticized him for running his horses too often (the same folks who cried about the frail nature of the thoroughbred and the conservative nature of most trainers), now days when he has been eclipsed win-wise by younger trainers (many who learned their craft under him) folks question him relentlessly for entering "hopeless longshots" while complaining about short fields in stake races...haters gonna hate! I will not be at all surprised if Mr Z ends up in the winners circle Saturday but even if he runs dead last, my respect for the great DWL will be maintained!

Are you kidding? Haters gonna hate? How can you possibly defend what he said?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Are you kidding? Haters gonna hate? How can you possibly defend what he said?

Well...you cant

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

DWL will always be relevant, haters will hate but this guy is perhaps the greatest trainer ever, certainly in the mix. When he was breaking down and killing everything in sight, folks criticized him for running his horses too often (the same folks who cried about the frail nature of the thoroughbred and the conservative nature of most trainers), now days when he has been eclipsed win-wise by younger trainers (many who learned their craft under him) folks question him relentlessly for entering "hopeless longshots" while complaining about short fields in stake races...haters gonna hate! I will not be at all surprised if Mr Z ends up in the winners circle Saturday but even if he runs dead last, my respect for the great butcher will be maintained!

FTFY.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

DWL will always be relevant, haters will hate but this guy is perhaps the greatest trainer ever, certainly in the mix. When he was winning everything in sight, folks criticized him for running his horses too often (the same folks who cried about the frail nature of the thoroughbred and the conservative nature of most trainers), now days when he has been eclipsed win-wise by younger trainers (many who learned their craft under him) folks question him relentlessly for entering "hopeless longshots" while complaining about short fields in stake races...haters gonna hate! I will not be at all surprised if Mr Z ends up in the winners circle Saturday but even if he runs dead last, my respect for the great DWL will be maintained!

It may not be popular, but I'm with you on DWL.

[King Glorious]

I'm a huge Lukas apologist but his statement with his reason for entering is ridiculous.

[geeker2]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

It may not be popular, but I'm with you on DWL.

I'm with Sighty !


she might hurt me if not