While we are arguing about the confederate flag

jms62 · #1 06-24-2015, 05:19 PM

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/obamas...--finance.html

These trade pacts always work out well for American Workers

Danzig · #2 06-24-2015, 10:40 PM

If you look on page three of this room, you'll see a thread titled tpp. You'll note there were zero replies.

jms62 · #3 06-25-2015, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

If you look on page three of this room, you'll see a thread titled tpp. You'll note there were zero replies.

Maybe the Republicans are not as stupid as we think and we are watching a real life Manchurian Candidate. Republicans throw an unelectable Sarah Palin into the mix to assure Obama victory. He then continues the wars, repackages Romney Care as Obama care and now goes against his party on a trade pact that will further hurt American Workers. If it were a movie they would cut to a scene of the Koch brothers cutting him a check and then roll the credits.

Danzig · #4 06-25-2015, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jms62

Maybe the Republicans are not as stupid as we think and we are watching a real life Manchurian Candidate. Republicans throw an unelectable Sarah Palin into the mix to assure Obama victory. He then continues the wars, repackages Romney Care as Obama care and now goes against his party on a trade pact that will further hurt American Workers. If it were a movie they would cut to a scene of the Koch brothers cutting him a check and then roll the credits.

it doesn't matter who runs for 16...any day now obama will declare himself dictator and force us all to become muslim.

jms62 · #5 06-25-2015, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

it doesn't matter who runs for 16...any day now obama will declare himself dictator and force us all to become muslim.

What is unbelievably sad is that the only candidate that really seems to have typical Americans interests at heart and I believe sincerely so is Donald Trump

I just can't believe I wrote that....

Danzig · #6 06-25-2015, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by jms62

What is unbelievably sad is that the only candidate that really seems to have typical Americans interests at heart and I believe sincerely so is Donald Trump

I just can't believe I wrote that....

he's so.....bizarre? not sure if that's the word.

somerfrost · #7 06-25-2015, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by jms62

What is unbelievably sad is that the only candidate that really seems to have typical Americans interests at heart and I believe sincerely so is Donald Trump

I just can't believe I wrote that....

Some folks will do anything to promote a TV show.... next thing one of the cast of Duck Dynasty will declare!

Danzig · #8 06-25-2015, 04:29 PM

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Some folks will do anything to promote a TV show.... next thing one of the cast of Duck Dynasty will declare!

Oh god. Don't give them any ideas

bigrun · #9 06-25-2015, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by jms62

What is unbelievably sad is that the only candidate that really seems to have typical Americans interests at heart and I believe sincerely so is Donald Trump

I just can't believe I wrote that....

LMAO

joeydb · #10 06-25-2015, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

it doesn't matter who runs for 16...any day now obama will declare himself dictator and force us all to become muslim.

Not directly. He'll just make sure that Iran gets a nuclear weapon, they'll issue an edict to that effect, before or after nuking us.

Danzig · #11 06-25-2015, 10:53 PM

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Not directly. He'll just make sure that Iran gets a nuclear weapon, they'll issue an edict to that effect, before or after nuking us.

How absurd.

joeydb · #12 06-25-2015, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

How absurd.

Maybe, and I was being somewhat facetious, but I'm not seeing a lot of upside to letting Iran get a nuclear weapon.

And this so-called brilliant leader is determined to make a deal with them.

Danzig · #13 06-25-2015, 11:00 PM

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Maybe, and I was being somewhat facetious, but I'm not seeing a lot of upside to letting Iran get a nuclear weapon.

And this so-called brilliant leader is determined to make a deal with them.

How does a treaty to keep them from getting a weapon allow them to get a weapon?

joeydb · #14 06-25-2015, 11:07 PM

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How does a treaty to keep them from getting a weapon allow them to get a weapon?

Because it has no teeth. Sanctions? Give me a break. Sanctions didn't stop North Korea.

Inspections? Another laugh. All the notice being given in advance of where the inspectors would go and when... can you imagine if the feds did that with Al Capone? They'd never find anything.

If Netanyahu thinks the deal will guarantee Iran getting a nuclear weapon, I believe him. Tel Aviv is the first target of any future Iranian weapon. He has a reason to care.

somerfrost · #15 06-26-2015, 08:35 AM

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Because it has no teeth. Sanctions? Give me a break. Sanctions didn't stop North Korea.

Inspections? Another laugh. All the notice being given in advance of where the inspectors would go and when... can you imagine if the feds did that with Al Capone? They'd never find anything.

If Netanyahu thinks the deal will guarantee Iran getting a nuclear weapon, I believe him. Tel Aviv is the first target of any future Iranian weapon. He has a reason to care.

I agree that Israel has justifiable concerns but two things are clear from history...(1) diplomacy beats the hell out of war, and (2) Israel will never allow Iran to get the bomb...they will turn Iran into a parking lot first. Obviously we can't trust Iran but I'd like to see the actual treaty before rejecting it. The message that Iran must hear is simple...we want a peaceful solution but any attack on Israel is suicidal and would bring the full force of American down on them as well!

Danzig · #16 06-26-2015, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by joeydb

Because it has no teeth. Sanctions? Give me a break. Sanctions didn't stop North Korea.

Inspections? Another laugh. All the notice being given in advance of where the inspectors would go and when... can you imagine if the feds did that with Al Capone? They'd never find anything.

If Netanyahu thinks the deal will guarantee Iran getting a nuclear weapon, I believe him. Tel Aviv is the first target of any future Iranian weapon. He has a reason to care.

how odd that you believe another nations leader, but not your own. why would you believe netanyahu?
and you do know that the treaty doesn't just involve us, but also Russia, China, France, United Kingdom and Germany and the european union?
amazing that many countries could be pushing for something that would allow iran what none of them want iran to get.

and the sanctions have been working. that's why iran wants a deal, some have been rolled back already with them showing willingness to do something. if iran balks, the sanctions return.

i'm sorry, but nothing you are suggesting has a basis in fact from what i've seen.
as for isreal, everyone wants a deal, because they don't want israel and iran in a war.