A case of 'the slows' for '16 sophomores..

[Kasept]

Expansion of discussion in the Weekend Beyers thread..

Here's a link to the Top 25 Derby candidates last year coming up to the race to help compare how the Class of '16 is faring fig-wise through mid-January: http://static.drf.com/images/2015_Derbyprobs.pdf

There are some isolated players that have run 90+ (only 2 this year so far), but overall.. Yeesh. Just out of the Derby 25 last year, Intl Star, Dortmund, Carpe Diem, American Pharoah, El Kabeir, Upstart, Firing Line, Mr. Z, Ocho Ocho Ocho, (plus Texas Red, Calculator & Daredevil) had all run 90+ by now..

Mohaymen 95 (Remsen)
Flexibility 91, 93 (Jerome, Remsen)
Ralis 93 (Hopeful)
Gift Box 93 (MSW)
Exaggerator 92 (DeD Jackpot)
Frank Conversation 91 (Cal Derby) - Synthetic

[Jasper131]

Didn't Gift Box when he broke his maiden? (Granted that was a maiden race in the slop so you can't take a ton from that.)

[senator L]

20 years ago the par seemed to be a 100 - now its 90

[bare it all]

Really hope 'Dorf reconsiders a Derby run with that filly.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by Jasper131

Didn't Gift Box when he broke his maiden? (Granted that was a maiden race in the slop so you can't take a ton from that.)

He did. He got a 93.

[declansharbor]

Speaking of Calculator, has he come back to the races yet? Training?

Thanks in advance.

[Holybull1]

Originally Posted by declansharbor

Speaking of Calculator, has he come back to the races yet? Training?

Thanks in advance.

Looks like we should seen him very soon.

Calculator (FL)

GR/RO, C, foaled April 5, 2012

Track Date Course Distance Time Note Rank
San Luis Rey Training Center 1/16/2016 Dirt 6F 1:14.80 Handily 3/7
San Luis Rey Training Center 1/9/2016 Dirt 5F 1:00.00 Handily 1/7
San Luis Rey Training Center 1/2/2016 Dirt 5F 1:02.00 Handily 6/15
San Luis Rey Training Center 12/27/2015 Dirt 5F 1:03.00 Handily 25/28
San Luis Rey Training Center 12/16/2015 Dirt 4F 48.60 Handily 2/10
San Luis Rey Training Center 12/9/2015 Dirt 4F 49.60 Handily 10/16
San Luis Rey Training Center 12/2/2015 Dirt 3F 36.80 Handily 1/6
San Luis Rey Training Center 11/21/2015 Dirt 3F 38.20 Handily 3/5

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by senator L

20 years ago the par seemed to be a 100 - now its 90

This is not isolated to just three year old races this year.

Horses on the Beyere figures are much slower than they had been. Performance enhancing drugs are not performance enhancing in terms of Beyere figures I suppose.

[OTM Al]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

This is not isolated to just three year old races this year.

Horses on the Beyere figures are much slower than they had been. Performance enhancing drugs are not performance enhancing in terms of Beyere figures I suppose.

Scale has slipped due to several factors including that the tentpole 5000 claimer baseline has moved. Due to slots purses, better horses are running at that level which pulls down the top end.

[fpsoxfan]

I blame all of this on Global Warming.

[Hickory Hill Hoff]

Originally Posted by fpsoxfan

I blame all of this on Global Warming.

or Syrian Refugees

[Danzig]

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...talks-breeding

i was reading the above article, and it brought to mind this thread. because what she is talking about here is one of the reasons why horses aren't getting faster-and may well be getting slower.
ok, not one of the reasons. THE reason. used to be that breeders bred to make a better breed, that is no longer the case. now, it is how quickly can i get a big, fast ROI. the breed and its future are no longer a concern, just like for many in the corporate world, the future is now. what i want is now now now, to heck with down the road and what the consequences will be, i just need to make mine NOW.
and the horse will pay, and then the sport as a whole will pay.