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Old 05-24-2017, 02:31 AM
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Should Epicharis' chances be downgraded due to the Thunder Snow debacle (he was my bet in the Derby) and Master Plan's poor Peter Pan?
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Old 05-24-2017, 10:29 AM
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In regards to Epicharis, no need to judge anything off of Thunder Snow's antics in the Derby. The Peter Pan was run in a bog so one could be inclined to ignore Master Plan's performance as well. If you liked Epicharis coming out of the UAE Derby there is no reason, at least based off those two performances, to change opinion.

That's how I am going to look at it. I like this horse a bit in here, especially if he is double digit odds.
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Old 05-24-2017, 10:55 AM
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Should Epicharis' chances be downgraded due to the Thunder Snow debacle (he was my bet in the Derby) and Master Plan's poor Peter Pan?
Why would his chances be downgraded? Unless Thunder Snow told him 'hey dude, we should have pact. Come out of the gate in whatever TC race they enter you in and start bucking...' what would that do for anything involving Epicharis? Thunder Snow's dad was a nut. Thunder Snow acted like a nut. (Well, people who knew the sire knew he did stuff that made this no surprise so I'm gonna slap the nut label on there).
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Old 05-24-2017, 11:29 AM
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Probably
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Old 05-24-2017, 02:46 PM
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Old 05-24-2017, 06:33 PM
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Should Epicharis' chances be downgraded due to the Thunder Snow debacle (he was my bet in the Derby) and Master Plan's poor Peter Pan?
I wouldn't worry about it. Thunder Snow didn't really run, and Master Plan ran on slop during a stretch where Pletcher's barn started to struggle badly.
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Old 05-24-2017, 06:34 PM
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Should Epicharis' chances be downgraded due to the Thunder Snow debacle (he was my bet in the Derby) and Master Plan's poor Peter Pan?
His chances should be downgraded because he is a woefully slow horse.
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Old 05-27-2017, 10:15 AM
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His chances should be downgraded because he is a woefully slow horse.
Thunder Snow just ran second to Churchill in the Irish 2000 Guineas. I guess that Churchill is merely just a slow horse then?
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Old 06-03-2017, 07:56 AM
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I already love Multiplier. After hearing Brendan Walsh,I really love him.

He could be the bet of the year in the Belmont. Kind of like Creator , last year
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