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Old 08-26-2017, 05:34 PM
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WTF has happened to Cloud Computing and Always Dreaming. How fluke were those Derby and Preakness wins?
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Old 08-26-2017, 05:56 PM
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Old 08-26-2017, 06:00 PM
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108 beyer for West Coast. Massive performance. Clear cut leader of this division at this point.
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Old 08-26-2017, 06:20 PM
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108 beyer for West Coast. Massive performance. Clear cut leader of this division at this point.
Forever Unbridled then gets a what, 98? race was definitely not fast.
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Old 08-26-2017, 06:26 PM
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Forever Unbridled then gets a what, 98? race was definitely not fast.
101-103? Probably big timeform considering the crawl she ran into.
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Old 08-26-2017, 06:28 PM
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101-103? Probably big timeform considering the crawl she ran into.
I dont think it was the crawl, think it was average for 9 F

The travers pace was a little more solid though.
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Old 08-26-2017, 06:31 PM
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I dont think it was the crawl, think it was average for 9 F

The travers pace was a little more solid though.
It was pretty slow and absolutely uncontested.
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Old 08-26-2017, 09:24 PM
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101-103? Probably big timeform considering the crawl she ran into.
If you look at her races, the slower the pace, the better she runs.
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Old 08-26-2017, 09:25 PM
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If you look at her races, the slower the pace, the better she runs.
That SHOULD indicate something to you.
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WTF has happened to Cloud Computing and Always Dreaming. How fluke were those Derby and Preakness wins?
I was at Lookin at Lee fan. I thought he was improving coming off a nice one in the Arkansas Derby and the Kentucky Derby. Then.....blah.
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Old 08-29-2017, 08:28 PM
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WTF has happened to Cloud Computing and Always Dreaming. How fluke were those Derby and Preakness wins?
Put an X through the Preakness, and where is CC's legit race? He's a fluke.
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Old 08-29-2017, 08:34 PM
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[quote=cakes44;1098808]Put an X through the Preakness, and where is CC's legit race? He's a fluke.[/QUOT


This shows a real lack of knowledge. He has definitely run 2 clunkers, but his first 4 races were all very good.
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Old 08-29-2017, 09:16 PM
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Put an X through the Preakness, and where is CC's legit race? He's a fluke.[/QUOT


This shows a real lack of knowledge. He has definitely run 2 clunkers, but his first 4 races were all very good.
Sounds good monopoly $$ man...please give me all the positive from his perfect trip Gotham where he got absolutely dusted by J Boys Echo, who just plain sucks. No phone a friend to the Batman-to-your-Robin Serling either stud.
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Old 08-29-2017, 09:19 PM
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Glad you had him in the Preakness(can't remember who else picked him...my memory is getting bad...), but the horse isn't good.
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Old 08-29-2017, 10:57 PM
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Sounds good monopoly $$ man...please give me all the positive from his perfect trip Gotham where he got absolutely dusted by J Boys Echo, who just plain sucks. No phone a friend to the Batman-to-your-Robin Serling either stud.
I guess the Preakness where he was right on top of the pace and ran down the 2yr old champ was bad. Clueless......
And he was way against the track in the Aqu race.
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Old 08-29-2017, 11:11 PM
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Sounds good monopoly $$ man...please give me all the positive from his perfect trip Gotham where he got absolutely dusted by J Boys Echo, who just plain sucks. No phone a friend to the Batman-to-your-Robin Serling either stud.
This is very stupid.

I would also bet a significant amount of money that RHT bets more than you a year.
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Old 08-29-2017, 11:21 PM
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The horse I will probably be most against from last weekend is Practical Joke.

He had a dream setup, rail trip, and he wins nicely in a slowish time. Now I dont know when he faces better horses but whenever it is I imagine he creates value.
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Old 08-29-2017, 11:22 PM
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The horse I will probably be most against from last weekend is Practical Joke.

He had a dream setup, rail trip, and he wins nicely in a slowish time. Now I dont know when he faces better horses but whenever it is I imagine he creates value.
I was against him and was wrong, amazing ride from Rosario.
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Old 08-30-2017, 12:56 AM
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The horse I will probably be most against from last weekend is Practical Joke.

He had a dream setup, rail trip, and he wins nicely in a slowish time. Now I dont know when he faces better horses but whenever it is I imagine he creates value.
It'll be interesting to see if he stays around one turn/8f or less. Now that Cloud Computing has been drubbed in consecutive races and is likely on the shelf for the time being (if not permanently), the temptation is probably there to go back to two turns, at least for something like the Pennsylvania Derby.

However, as it seems that most horses this year will be foregoing a BC "prep" (Collected, Arrogate, Stellar Wind, Forever Unbridled, etc.), Practical Joke might not show back up until the BC Dirt Mile anyways.
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