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[RUFFIAN]

MY WHISKERS ARE IN A KNOT
WHEN TRYING TO DECIDE
ASKING FOR OPINIONS
WHICH TRACK YA WANNA RIDE?

*AM CONSIDERING ALL TURFWAY WITH REBEL BONUS

* OR - OAKLAWN WITH BONUS OF SPIRAL / RUSHAWAY?
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*** OAKLAWN ***

REBEL - Gr 2 / 3 yr olds = 1 1/16 M = $900,000
AZERI - Gr 2 / 4Yr + = 1 1/16 M = $350 K
ESSEX - 4 yr + = $300 K
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*** TURFWAY ***

SPIRAL - Gr 3 - 3 yr olds = 1 1/8 M = $200 K
BOURBONETTE OAKS -- Gr 3 = 1 mile = $100 K
KY CLASSIC - 1 1/8 = $100 K
RUSHAWAY - $75 K - 3 YR = 1 1/16 M
LATONIA ----- $75 K - 3 YR +

[JolyB]

Ruff, congrats on your win at Tampa Bay Downs.

If I were making the choice, I would lean very heavily toward Oaklawn Park and add only the horribly named Jeff Ruby Steaks (previously called the Spiral, previously called the Gallery Furniture.com, previously called the Lanes End, previously called the Jim Beam, previously called the Jim Beam Spiral, originally called the Spiral, and I've probably left out a couple of others) from Turfway Park.

I've always felt that the quality of racing at Oaklawn is vastly superior to that at Turfway; I'm sure that more Derby contenders will emerge from the Rebel than from the Jeff Ruby with horsemen preferring running a prep on the dirt rather than on the synthetic surface of Turfway. In addition, both the Azeri and the Essex at Oaklawn are quality races.

The Rushaway is a two turn stakes race for 3 year old colts, but with a purse of only $75K I don't think it is really a prep for anything other than the Lexington.

That's my 2 cents' worth. Spend it well.

[RUFFIAN]

WOW JOLY.....
What A Fount of Information You Are!

I did not realize that the Spiral was also the Jim Beam
And All those other horrible names!

Thank you for the quick reply and I was leaning in Oaklawn direction

It will be interesting to see what other insights may be offered

[Real Quiet]

Since your considering the Rebel and Spiral I have no real preference. If you do choose Oaklawn I would not add the Rushaway. As Joly stated, Congrats on
your points win Ruffian.

[RUFFIAN]

AGREE RE RUSHAWAY

CHECK OUT SPIRAL CONTENDERS ---
===> WORTHY OR NOT TO INCLUDE

OPINIONS WELCOMED PLEASE!

"SPIRAL " (I Refuse To Call It That Horrendous Name! ewwwwww

RACE 10
Jeff Ruby Steaks S. (Grade III) POST TIME - 6:00 PM


PP (RACE 10)
Turfway Park STAKES

Purse $200,000. For, Three-Years-Olds. One And One Eighth Miles. (All Weather Track)

PP Horse Virtual
Stable A/S Med Jockey Wgt Trainer
1 Sky Promise (KY) 3/C L J Gilligan 123 K G McPeek
2 Cash Call Kitten (KY) 3/C L T Gaffalione 123 M J Maker
3 Archaggelos (KY) 3/C L R M Hernandez 123 M W Dickinson
4 Pony Up (KY) 3/C L A Jimenez 123 T A Pletcher
5 Magicalmeister (KY) 3/C L J McKee 123 J K Chapman
6 Mugaritz (KY) 3/G L N Juarez 123 J Wong
7 Hazit (KY) 3/C L D Van Dyke 123 T A Pletcher
8 Blended Citizen (KY) 3/C L K Frey 123 D F O'Neill
9 Dreamer's Point (KY) 3/G L C Landeros 123 I R Wilkes
10 Zanesville (KY) 3/C L M Franklin 123 T M Amoss
11 Ride a Comet (KY) 3/C L G Saez 123 M E Casse
12 Arawak (KY) 3/C L J A Garcia 123 W A Ward
Owners: 1 - Stephen R. Baker ; 2 - Kenneth L. and Sarah K. Ramsey ; 3 - Monticule, LLC (Gary Knapp) ; 4 - Calumet Farm (Brad Kelley) ; 5 - Christopher J. Meyer, Stanley Uragami and James K. Chapman ; 6 - Alejandro Mercado ; 7 - Eclipse Thoroughbred Partners, Magnier, M., Tabor, M. and Smith, D. ; 8 - Greg Hall and Sayjay Racing, LLC (Steve Young) ; 9 - Six Column Stables, LLC (Brad Stephens), Randall L. Bloch and John Seiler ; 10 - Rosemont Farm, LLC (James C. Eigel) ; 11 - John C. Oxley and My Meadowview Farm, LLC (Leonard Riggio) ; 12 - R3 Racing, LLC (Ron Arakelian), Steven Keh and CTR Stables, LLC (Chad Calvert)

Breeders: 1 - Normandy Farm LLC; 2 - Kenneth L. Ramsey & Sarah K. Ramsey; 3 - Monticule; 4 - Calumet Farm; 5 - Fred W. Hertrich III; 6 - Sean Speck & Barbara Speck; 7 - Raydelz Stable; 8 - Ray Hanson; 9 - Lantern Hill Farm/Bloch Racing/SeilerRacing/Traits LLC; 10 - Rosemont Farm LLC; 11 - My Meadowview LLC; 12 - Parrish Hill Farm & Ashford Stud

Pedigrees (Sire - Dam, by Dam Sire): 1 - Sky Mesa - Maddie's Promise , by Dehere ; 2 - Kitten's Joy - Medium of Exchange , by Exchange Rate ; 3 - Temple City - Mien , by Nureyev ; 4 - Aikenite - A. P. Petal , by A.P. Indy ; 5 - Bodemeister - Invitation , by Vindication ; 6 - Dialed In - Flag the Mint Down , by Flag Down ; 7 - War Front - Rumor , by Indian Charlie ; 8 - Proud Citizen - Langara Lass , by Langfuhr ; 9 - Shackleford - Mondenschein , by Brahms ; 10 - Tiznow - Scandalous Song , by Unbridled's Song ; 11 - Candy Ride (ARG) - Appealing Zophie , by Successful Appeal ; 12 - Uncle Mo - Spicy Teddy , by Spanish Steps ;

[Plenilune]

Oaklawn only would be great.

[RUFFIAN]

Why does DRF STAKES list SPIRAL as

= TURFWAY PARK
==> JACK Cincinnati Casino Spiral S.(Grade 3) <====
$200,000.00; 3 Year Olds
1 1/8 Miles

*** BUT EQUIBASE LISTS IT AS

==> **Race 10 $200,000 Jeff Ruby Steaks S. 1 1/8 Miles

ANYONE KNOW HOW THE SAME RACE CAN BE CALLED 2 DIFFERENT NAMES

[NJ Stinks]

My thought is that if we don't go to Turfway this week, we ain't going this year.


Put another way, I'm old enough to be nostalgic about The Jim Beam Stakes.


But please know this: I'm playing wherever we go!


P.S. I enjoyed retracing all the names of the race that kept Turfway in the conversation in years gone by, JolyB.

[JolyB]

Originally Posted by RUFFIAN-333

Why does DRF STAKES list SPIRAL as

= TURFWAY PARK
==> JACK Cincinnati Casino Spiral S.(Grade 3) <====
$200,000.00; 3 Year Olds
1 1/8 Miles

*** BUT EQUIBASE LISTS IT AS

==> **Race 10 $200,000 Jeff Ruby Steaks S. 1 1/8 Miles

ANYONE KNOW HOW THE SAME RACE CAN BE CALLED 2 DIFFERENT NAMES

Studies have shown that in every group there is a certain and predictable percentage that did not get the memo.

Or perhaps DRF are just having fun with the constant change of names and sponsors.

[RUFFIAN]

Irony
Altitude Sports TV (they join up with TVG)
They will be airing the race on Saturday and their listing says = SPIRAL S