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Old 04-12-2018, 03:57 PM
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Default Offshore Ky Derby futures

Offshore Derby odds from Bookmaker.eu. The first number is the odds in sportsbetting lingo, the 2nd is 'odds to 1', and the 3rd is what that horse's chance to win would have to be to make those odds fair.

These are 'no refund' futures. If your horse doesn't start, you lose. The implied takeout is huge, over 30%, not even counting that some Derby starters may not even be listed.


Audible
825 8.25 11%
Bolt D"Oro
585 5.85 15%
Combatant
5250 52.5 2%
Enticed
2550 25.5 4%
Firenze Fire
6050 60.5 2%
Free Drop Billy
3050 30.5 3%
Good Magic
645 6.45 13%
Instilled Regard
4550 45.5 2%
Mendelssohn
645 6.45 13%
Solomini
1615 16.15 6%
Sporting Chance
2550 25.5 4%
Vino Rosso
1215 12.15 8%
Bravazo
5244 52.44 2%
Flameaway
3550 35.5 3%
Justify
365 3.65 22%
Magnum Moon
1185 11.85 8%
My Boy Jack
2550 25.5 4%
Noble Indy
3550 35.5 3%
Promises Fulfilled
5250 52.5 2%
Quip
3050 30.5 3%
Lone Sailor
6550 65.5 2%
Runaway Ghost
5250 52.5 2%
Gronkowski
2550 25.5 4%
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Old 04-21-2018, 02:53 PM
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Audible
825 8.25 11%, 859
Bolt D"Oro
585 5.85 15%, 590
Combatant
5250 52.5 2%, 6050
Enticed
2550 25.5 4%, 1841
Firenze Fire
6050 60.5 2%, 6250
Free Drop Billy
3050 30.5 3%, 4050
Good Magic
645 6.45 13%, 691
Instilled Regard
4550 45.5 2%, 10227
Mendelssohn
645 6.45 13%, 604
Solomini
1615 16.15 6%, 2101
Sporting Chance
2550 25.5 4%, 3161
Vino Rosso
1215 12.15 8%, 1234
Bravazo
5244 52.44 2%, 6050
Flameaway
3550 35.5 3%, 4050
Justify
365 3.65 22%, 367
Magnum Moon
1185 11.85 8%, 834
My Boy Jack
2550 25.5 4%, 2101
Noble Indy
3550 35.5 3%, 4050
Promises Fulfilled
5250 52.5 2%, 6050
Quip
3050 30.5 3%, 2667
Lone Sailor
6550 65.5 2%, 6550
Runaway Ghost
5250 52.5 2%, OFF
Gronkowski
2550 25.5 4%, 2625
I've added the current odds on the right. (as before, divide that number by 100 to get the 'odds to 1')

Not much change among the favorites' odds since 9 days ago. Magnum Moon dropping from 11.85-1 to 8.34-1 is the largest move.
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Old 04-21-2018, 03:07 PM
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I should add that since these odds and movements are coming from just one offshore book, it's not all that meaningful. I doubt there's much depth to the handle at Bookmaker.eu. A single mid-sized bet could cause a substantial line movement downward.

Books I've checked in the past--Pinnacle, TheGreek, 5Dimes--do not have Derby Futures up.

I just checked SportsInteraction.com, and they have these odds that are superior to Bookmaker's.

Bolt d'Oro 9-1
Vino Rosso 16-1
Gronkowski 33-1
Good Magic 11-1
Enticed 25-1
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