September 29 Bel/SA All Stakes ROI Wagers go here . . .

[DonGuido]

Please have all wagers on this fun 8 race card posted here by 4:09 eastern. Enjoy the day!!!

[RUFFIAN]

RIDICULOUS & RAMBUNCTIOUS
BODACIOUS OR A BAD IDEA?
DOUBTFUL THAT ANY CAN WIN
WOULD BE SHOCK ~ EVEN TO ME!

***** BELMONT *****

RACE 7 ~ VOSBURGH
#2 = $26 WIN
MANIACAL (Kitten's Joy!)

RACE 8 ~ JOE HIRSCH
#5 = $30 WIN
TEODORO

RACE 10 ~ JCGC
#5 = $24 WIN
UNO MAS MODELO
*2 Fave Sires! Macho Uno / Distorted Humor = #1

***** SANTA ANITA *****

RACE 11 ~ AWESOME AGAIN
#1 = $20 WIN
SHADES OF VICTORY (Gray)

CATNIP + MEOW MIX BUFFET FOR THE 'QUIET ONE'

[cruzan200246]

Belmont

R9. 10 Pipes $25.00 Win

Santa Anita


R9. 5 Der Lu $25.00 Show
R10. 4 Queen Blossom #25.00 Show
R11. 2 Isothem $25.00 Place

[Roamin42]

Belmont

Race 10--# 8 Thunder Snow--$100 WIN

[DonGuido]

Belmont Races 7-10

Grand Salami - $8 bet = $96
6/1/5,7,8,9/2,3,6
Enjoy the Day!!!

[Real Quiet]

BEL R 10 $25 ex key 6 w 3-7-2-8 ($100)

[JolyB]

Belmont Race 7:

$20 Grand Slam (sorry, RQ, but I just had to do it)
6 / 1,3,6,8 / 5 / 6 ($80)

$5 Grand Slam:
6 / 1,3 / 5 / 2,8 ($20)

Good luck to all and thank you to RQ for scoring.

This is a very different type of GS play for me to try. Instead of playing a $2 Grand Slam and hoping to hit it 20 times, I'm playing a $20 GS and hoping to hit it 2 times. More of a reflection of the card in front of us. Most of all it is my attempt to leverage a win bet on Diversify (whom I like a lot)into something better than the 3/5 that I think he will be at post time.

[cal828]

Might as well try the Grand Slam too.

Belmont R7

$1 6//1,3,5,8//2,5//2,6,8=$24

$9 6//1,5//2,5//6=$36

$9 3,6//1//2//6,8=$36

$4 6//1//5//6

[banter]

Sax 10 ($100)

$20 win on 4 - Queen Blossom
$30 place on 4 - Queen Blossom
$50 show on 4 - Queen Blossom

Thanks to Real Quiet for scoring.

[JolyB]

Well, none of us who were trying to hit the Grand Slam counted on Discreet Lover's (or as Larry was calling him for most of the race Discreet Image) being the one to hit it over the Green Monster. 1:09.13 for 6 furlongs in a mile and one-quarter race? What was Irad thinking? More to the point, was Irad thinking??

[RUFFIAN]

ROI

Of course since we did NOT include SA R12
MY ROI HORSE WON!
Figures

2 - Travieza, Bay Filly, 3, by Into Mischief
- Bellezza Rosso by Tapit
Fractions: :213, :432, 1:061, 1:122 (:21.79, :43.42, 1:06.22, 1:12.42)
# Horse Jockey Weight Win Place Show
2 Travieza Bejarano Rafael 120 44.40 13.60 7.80

[cal828]

Originally Posted by JolyB

Well, none of us who were trying to hit the Grand Slam counted on Discreet Lover's (or as Larry was calling him for most of the race Discreet Image) being the one to hit it over the Green Monster. 1:09.13 for 6 furlongs in a mile and one-quarter race? What was Irad thinking? More to the point, was Irad thinking??

I think we all made a pretty credible stab at it. And I definitely will try that type of bet again with maybe a bit more of a spread in leg 4 which is the critical one. I spread in leg 2 which I had little confidence in( I tend to have little confidence in my Turf picks). Of course I hit that one in all four of my bets.

[JolyB]

Originally Posted by cal828

I think we all made a pretty credible stab at it. And I definitely will try that type of bet again with maybe a bit more of a spread in leg 4 which is the critical one. I spread in leg 2 which I had little confidence in( I tend to have little confidence in my Turf picks). Of course I hit that one in all four of my bets.

I'll agree with you there, Cal. You were alive three times on your first ticket going into the final leg, but no matter how far any of us spread, I don't know if we would have included Discreet Lover.

Still, that's one of the reasons that we play the ROI contest; to get experience in making wagers that we might not ordinarily make at the track or at a racino.

I'm always reluctant to spread too much in the final leg, since the GS strategy is different than a pick 4. I like to spread in the earlier legs hoping to hit multiple times in several legs (once hit twice in each of the three early legs and had 8 winning combinations on one ticket), but then try to single if at all possible in the final leg since if a favorite wins the final leg the GS payoff can be a LOT smaller than a pick 4. I try to avoid the embarrassing situation of actually hitting an exotic bet but ending up with less money than I wagered because I played too many combinations, but that doesn't always work out for me, as Real Quiet can attest.

[cal828]

Originally Posted by JolyB

I'll agree with you there, Cal. You were alive three times on your first ticket going into the final leg, but no matter how far any of us spread, I don't know if we would have included Discreet Lover.

Still, that's one of the reasons that we play the ROI contest; to get experience in making wagers that we might not ordinarily make at the track or at a racino.

I'm always reluctant to spread too much in the final leg, since the GS strategy is different than a pick 4. I like to spread in the earlier legs hoping to hit multiple times in several legs (once hit twice in each of the three early legs and had 8 winning combinations on one ticket), but then try to single if at all possible in the final leg since if a favorite wins the final leg the GS payoff can be a LOT smaller than a pick 4. I try to avoid the embarrassing situation of actually hitting an exotic bet but ending up with less money than I wagered because I played too many combinations, but that doesn't always work out for me, as Real Quiet can attest.

I actually did use Discreet Lover in the Suburban and he ran third, but Gronkowski seemed more logical for this race considering his heroics in the Belmont Stakes albeit in a longer race. So much for logic.

You are right about the "embarrassing situation." Considering it only paid $103 dollars with a $93 winner in the last leg, it likely would have been a pittance with either Thunder Snow or Diversify and Gronkowski too.