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Old 05-07-2019, 04:39 PM
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Well MS needs time off because Servis’s “program” requires 30-45 days between starts.

Hay and oats.
Can someone explain the time frame for me? Does the extra time allow a trainer to give PEDs to a horse that increase muscle, etc. but are out of the system by the time the horse races next?
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Old 05-07-2019, 05:11 PM
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Can someone explain the time frame for me? Does the extra time allow a trainer to give PEDs to a horse that increase muscle, etc. but are out of the system by the time the horse races next?
If anything it's the opposite. The cheating trainers' horses can come back much quicker. Their horses can do things that normal horses can't do.
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Old 05-07-2019, 05:12 PM
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If anything it's the opposite. The cheating trainers' horses can come back much quicker. Their horses can do things that normal horses can't do.
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Old 05-07-2019, 05:40 PM
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If anything it's the opposite. The cheating trainers' horses can come back much quicker. Their horses can do things that normal horses can't do.
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Yeah cuz R. Dutrow absolutely sucked at running horses back quickly
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Old 05-07-2019, 05:48 PM
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Yeah cuz R. Dutrow absolutely sucked at running horses back quickly
We are talking about different kinds of programs.

You’re a big fan of 40% trainers now? Amazing what this DQ has done to people.
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Old 05-07-2019, 05:49 PM
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It is an absurd thing to say. Where are you getting your information? Blood doping and all cheating make horses much stronger and able to do things that normal horses can't do. Just like Lance Armstrong could do things that would not be possible without blood doping. When you are much stronger and can get much more air, you don't get as tired and you recover much quicker. It is the same with pretty much all the things that these guys use. Whether it's blood doping or whether it's something like steroids or something that mimics steroids, it allows the horses to recover much quicker and to maintain their weight. In Southern California there was a trainer who would run his horses back in a week all the time when steroids were allowed. It was a known fact that this guy was giving huge doses of steroids.
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Old 05-07-2019, 06:09 PM
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It is an absurd thing to say. Where are you getting your information? Blood doping and all cheating make horses much stronger and able to do things that normal horses can't do. Just like Lance Armstrong could do things that would not be possible without blood doping. When you are much stronger and can get much more air, you don't get as tired and you recover much quicker. It is the same with pretty much all the things that these guys use. Whether it's blood doping or whether it's something like steroids or something that mimics steroids, it allows the horses to recover much quicker and to maintain their weight. In Southern California there was a trainer who would run his horses back in a week all the time when steroids were allowed. It was a known fact that this guy was giving huge doses of steroids.
Coming from you that’s a compliment.
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