Empire Pick 6 mandatory payout

[JolyB]

With races taken off of the turf and a lot of scratches in the sequence, the Empire Pick 6 at Saratoga looks to be very hittable with a relatively modest ticket. As a conventional pick 6 it doesn't have much appeal. The only reason to play this sequence is the carryover and mandatory payout. I'm looking at the following ticket:

2,3,4,8 // 4,6,7 // 2,3 // 2,10,12,13 // 1,7 // 2,3,5 ($115.20)

It would be possible to single in both with the #3 in the 7th and with #7 in the 9th with what will be short priced favorites (using a $28.80 budget ticket), but where you are seeking to capture a big carryover, it would be a shame to leave any contender out.

Anyone else looking at this sequence?

[cal828]

Bogey(Gus Alonzo) put this one up over on the selections thread for $96:

2,3,4,5,8/4,6/1,2,3,6/10,12,13/7/2,3,5,9

Pretty similar to yours. Hope both of you hit it.

[JolyB]

I think that #9 is a scratch in the finale.

Thought a lot about Shadilee, #5 in the 5th. Finally decided against taking a Todd Pletcher firster in a Maiden Claimer. Just doesn't feel right to me for a horse that he thinks has some ability.

Suspect there will be lots of tickets that look much like these. But, the carryover might be sufficient to still yield a decent return on an obvious array.

Time to get serious with final decisions.

[Alabama Stakes]

Delay post time due to long lines at the Windows

[JolyB]

So much for that theory.

[Hickory Hill Hoff]

Is there a 5 out of 6 payout in this mandatory?

[JolyB]

there isn't as far as I know.

[jms62]

Am I to logical in thinking the force-out should’ve been next Saturday during Travers day?

[cal828]

Originally Posted by jms62

Am I to logical in thinking the force-out should’ve been next Saturday during Travers day?

I agree, since that should be a huge day anyway so the pot should be larger, but I am not sure I understand how the powers that be determine when the force out will be. Is it just arbitrary or do they do it when the pot reaches a certain point or what? I think some venues do it at the end of their meet, but others don't seem to do it that way.

[JolyB]

When NYRA announced the Empire 6, they also declared that there would be 2 mandatory payout days, namely Sunday August 18 and closing day on Monday September 2.

Perhaps they reasoned that having a mandatory payout day would itself greatly increase the handle, so 2 mandatory payout days would be even better. That was evidenced yesterday when at least $2,300,000 of new money was wagered into the pool. That much new money has the effect of dramatically diluting the benefit of the carryover amount, which I believe was $438,000.

[cal828]

I may have to take a shot at it on the next mandatory. $12,500 thereabouts yesterday not the stuff of which dreams are made, but more than decent. I might have tried yesterday, but was busy chopping down a dead cherry tree in my yard and trying not to have it crash down on my head. Had to do the Arkansas version of the Texas two step a couple of times to dodge the falling trunk. Chainsaws and their use make me very nervous.