USC kills Notre Dame

Originally Posted by uscrules

and best of luck to you and notre dame in whatever bowl they get to play in.
i'll have to check the paper for that score. cant imagine they will get to play anyone better than a rutgers like team. suppose this kind of game could be mildly entertaining.

-chuck

Hey USCRules,
where are those bums of yours gonna play next? The Jergens handlotion Jerkoff bowl? Good luck to you in that.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by Dixie Porter

Predicting the outcome of these bowl games (2 - 5 weeks away) is very adventurous @ best. Unless you are really sharp, and just want to take a position on the opening line for a possible buyback, they're are to many variables.

1) Which team will have 14 players out with food poisoning?

2) Who gets arrested for rape or soliciting?

3) What coach (Lou Holtz) decides to suspend 17 starters 3 days before the game?

4) Who gets tossed for selling text books for second semester?

5) Who's in jail for drunk and disorderly conduct in Miami and New Orleans?

6) How much "whacky weed" do the visitors smoke in Hawaii? (happens every year)

This is QUITE different from betting a NCS future where you are offered mamouth odds and not laying 11/10.

Note to Mike: I've been called "everything" in my life, but NEVER a sucker. Trojan D and Pete's superior game plan win this one. (not to mention going back to Rose Bowl day's where Big 10 teams traveling to Cal. rarely did well against UCLA, Cal., Stanford and USC.)

Note to KG: Even though you "hate" USC (racist ) I REALLY need this 70 grand. Have a little "rachmanous"..................

Note to Assttodixie: At the moment it looks like Clemson is gonna hook up with Navy. I suggest you start saving up the dough right now. This is a potential "massacare".

Final note to ALL: If the Red Sea opens and UCLA trips up the Trojans my address (Beverly Hills Hotel) will be changed

Dixie - please leave a forwarding address

Originally Posted by Seattleallstar

45-14 final score

then in the National Championship Game

USC defeats OSU 28-17

Mush, jinx, imbecile. That about covers that one.

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

Did you just see that catch by Jarrett? That's enough to make the sweatervest **** his pants.

Sweatervest is only sad that they won't be coming to get their asses kicked badly.

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Timmi,

Its the anti west coast bias that is pervasive on this forum. USC KILLED Notre Lame after some of these morons predicted an ND win. I have to say, anyone that predicted an ND win is either devoutly loyal or devoutly stupid...or both.

USC went into Arkansas against a team that is playing in the SEC final and destroyed them. They lost one game, a conference game, on the road. Thats it. They beat up everything else.

Now, what has Michigan beaten out of conference? And in conference, what was really that good in the Big ten besides Ohio St.??????

USC deserves the berth.

Dalkhani is not even as bright as a clock, at least a clock is right twice a day.

Originally Posted by uscrules

Whats the big deal, we're #2. Who didnt think that? You heard it here first...
We will beat the Yuckeyes by more points than we will the Bruins.
USC 42 UCLA 28
USC 35 Ohios State 17

GO TROJANS !

Stick to making up fantasy online alter egos, ok Chief?

The sweatervest had to be bummed out watching that game. He had it made.
Now hes gotta sweat that rematch he doesnt want, nor does any OSU fan.
If they choose Florida the sweatervest has to chuckle.
Lloyd carr is the only class in this act. Bigmouth "Pete the Genius" Carroll used the same criteria he lobbied agaisnt when LSU was chosen three years ago to LOBBY FOR his team this year with his big mouth.
Florida's coach has lobbied shamelessly while Lloyd Carr refuses to lobby.

Originally Posted by Dixie Porter

YOU are a PI$$ER...............

Dixie,
I have met a lotta guys, but this guy takes the cake.
he has personally mushed at least ten horses into grade one wins in their next starts after saying they suck or will never win a grade one.
In sports hes the absolute kiss of death.
Last year over on our other board, he started a thread entitled "USC-haters eat crow thread" on championship game night, his first post was how I and the other haters were gonna take their beatings on the thread "when USC killed Texas". YOu know how that one turned out.
When he was taunted and laghed at on that thread later on and asked what happened, he actually said "well they lost 4 key starters from last years team" as an explanation. As if he didn't know that before the season started, much less the final game.
You need to take this kid on the road with you(just make sure he gets a seperate room and that he has to pay for his own meals, AND always make sure you fly seperately, trust me you don't want this guy on the same plane as you!!!!) and zig when he zags. When he says up, you go down. If he says left, you go right.
And if he takes the high road, you want the low road.

[Nascar1966]

It isn't hard to figure it out Ohio State should play Florida for the championship. Florida played the toughest schedule of the year. They come from where I feel is the best conference in all of college football. At least for thier non conference/scrimmage games they don't play Army, Navy, and Air Force. Take note of that last one all you Notre Dame fans. Again it proves why there is a need for some sort of playoff system. I am sure you will have a team that is deserving a playoff spot not getting in and raising hell about it. While Michigan would be a very deserving oppenent for Ohio State, they had thier chance a few weeks ago. If they had played earlier in the year then you could maybe a case for a rematch.

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

It isn't hard to figure it out Ohio State should play Florida for the championship. Florida played the toughest schedule of the year. They come from where I feel is the best conference in all of college football. At least for thier non conference/scrimmage games they don't play Army, Navy, and Air Force. Take note of that last one all you Notre Dame fans. Again it proves why there is a need for some sort of playoff system. I am sure you will have a team that is deserving a playoff spot not getting in and raising hell about it. While Michigan would be a very deserving oppenent for Ohio State, they had thier chance a few weeks ago. If they had played earlier in the year then you could maybe a case for a rematch.

When they played doesn't matter, WHERE they played does!!!!

[Cannon Shell]

I just thought this was timely considering how inferior Pac 10 team beat the hell out of the mighty Big ten team

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I just thought this was timely considering how inferior Pac 10 team beat the hell out of the mighty Big ten team

the rose bowl's claim to relevance will be a fading moment a week from now.

michigan looks so bad now that everyone wants to rip 'em to pieces -- wait until ohio st. dismantles florida.

then we'll go right back to square one, which is michigan having been the only team to even hold a candle to the national champs all year long in a game.

that would make them still without a doubt the 2nd best team in America.

Or do you have to lose to UCLA to earn that distinction?

[sham]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

the rose bowl's claim to relevance will be a fading moment a week from now.

michigan looks so bad now that everyone wants to rip 'em to pieces -- wait until ohio st. dismantles florida.

then we'll go right back to square one, which is michigan having been the only team to even hold a candle to the national champs all year long in a game.

that would make them still without a doubt the 2nd best team in America.

Or do you have to lose to UCLA to earn that distinction?

Let me see if I follow your logic:
- OSU defeats Mich
- UCLA defeats SCal
- SCal defeats Mich
- OSU defeats Fla
THEREFORE
Mich is better than SCal...is that it?

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by sham

Let me see if I follow your logic:
- OSU defeats Mich
- UCLA defeats SCal
- SCal defeats Mich
- OSU defeats Fla

it's not just "defeating" that I'm interested in. i'm interested in Michigan nearly pulling off the upset of OSU, and of course my entire post was predicated on the notion that OSU is going to demolish Florida....not just barely beat them.

Bring the Rose Bowl matchip to Ann Arbor, MI yesterday and the game is completely different

Originally Posted by sham

Mich is better than SCal...is that it?

You got it, that's the shorthand version of what I'm saying.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

it's not just "defeating" that I'm interested in. i'm interested in Michigan nearly pulling off the upset of OSU, and of course my entire post was predicated on the notion that OSU is going to demolish Florida....not just barely beat them.

Bring the Rose Bowl matchip to Ann Arbor, MI yesterday and the game is completely different



You got it, that's the shorthand version of what I'm saying.

USC beat Michigan like a redheaded stepchild. If it were even close at the end, I could see your point but with 7 minutes to go it was 32-11. Henne was sacked six times in the first half alone.

Why are there always these endless excuses for the big blue? "if that game were in ann arbor instead of columbus, michigan would be playing for the title". "if that game were in ann arbor, MI yesterday, the game is completely different".

Same old song and dance every year for their blind fans.

Listen, Ive been watching Michigan choke for the last 25 years. Lloyd Carr got completely outcoached and their defensive backfield got completely schooled. The difference in overall team speed was ridiculous.

They could play that game ANYWHERE and Michigan still loses as they do almost EVERY TIME they play USC. Is that 6 out of the last 7 now?

This game wasnt close and the game against OSU wasnt nearly as close as the score made it appear.

Michigan had a good year. They will be tough next year. But to say that they are better than SC? That is a complete joke.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

it's not just "defeating" that I'm interested in. i'm interested in Michigan nearly pulling off the upset of OSU, and of course my entire post was predicated on the notion that OSU is going to demolish Florida....not just barely beat them.

Bring the Rose Bowl matchip to Ann Arbor, MI yesterday and the game is completely different



You got it, that's the shorthand version of what I'm saying.

USC beat Michigan like a redheaded stepchild. If it were even close at the end, I could see your point but with 7 minutes to go it was 32-11. Henne was sacked six times in the first half alone.

Why are there always these endless excuses for the big blue? "if that game were in ann arbor instead of columbus, michigan would be playing for the title". "if that game were in ann arbor, MI yesterday, the game is completely different".

Same old song and dance every year for their blind fans.

Listen, Ive been watching Michigan choke for the last 25 years. Lloyd Carr got completely outcoached and their defensive backfield got completely schooled. The difference in overall team speed was ridiculous.

They could play that game ANYWHERE and Michigan still loses as they do almost EVERY TIME they play USC. Is that 6 out of the last 7 now?

This game wasnt close and the game against OSU wasnt nearly as close as the score made it appear.

Michigan had a good year. They will be tough next year. But to say that they are better than SC? That is a complete joke.

[Gander]

Bring the Rose Bowl matchip to Ann Arbor, MI yesterday and the game is completely different

Spoken like a true Big Ten fan. Its exactly why I root for teams like Michigan, Penn State and Ohio State to lose. Big Ten fans cant admit their team was inferior in every way. They use the excuse of where the game was played, as if that accounted for the huge difference in yards gained and points gained.
Stick to your music, you would never be a good sports analysist. Too much of a bias. Instead of giving the other team credit, you bring up the fact that they lost to UCLA 4 weeks ago. What does that have anything to do with them pounding on Michigan?

By the way, everybody acts like this was an upset. Check out the spread that was anywhere between 1 and 2.5 points (michigan favored) depending on where you bet. Thats not that much respect for a team who only lost by 3points to Ohio State against a lowly team like USC, who got beat by a very medicore (at best) UCLA. Seems to me like the spread should have been Michigan by 10, but it was hardly that.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Gander

Bring the Rose Bowl matchip to Ann Arbor, MI yesterday and the game is completely different

Spoken like a true Big Ten fan. Its exactly why I root for teams like Michigan, Penn State and Ohio State to lose. Big Ten fans cant admit their team was inferior in every way. They use the excuse of where the game was played, as if that accounted for the huge difference in yards gained and points gained.
Stick to your music, you would never be a good sports analysist. Too much of a bias. Instead of giving the other team credit, you bring up the fact that they lost to UCLA 4 weeks ago. What does that have anything to do with them pounding on Michigan?

By the way, everybody acts like this was an upset. Check out the spread that was anywhere between 1 and 2.5 points (michigan favored) depending on where you bet. Thats not that much respect for a team who only lost by 3points to Ohio State against a lowly team like USC, who got beat by a very medicore (at best) UCLA. Seems to me like the spread should have been Michigan by 10, but it was hardly that.

well them losing to UCLA has everything to do with it, when we're talking about their "pounding" of Michigan indicating that they're a better football team. if we're going to use head to head matchups to determine that one team better than another -- then we're right back at having the tough debate as to whether oregon st. is better than USC, aren't we? i've never claimed that USC was "lowly," I just don't think they're a better football team than Michigan. You won't find anyone on any board who has been around me for any of the last five years who recalls me ever being a Big Ten apologist, or an any team apologist for that matter....because I have never been one. This is the first time in my entire life that I've claimed anything like this regarding college football (oh wait, i don't want to be a liar. i did the same thing for florida st. when they had charlie ward and notre dame beat them but i still thought florida state was the better team when i was maybe about 10 years old. wouldn't want to get caught in that fishy situation of you unearthing a witness to that!) -- because I'm not one to go blindly to bat for a team just because of their conference or where I live. It's a battle I've chosen specifically because they're not a better team than Michigan.

You can point to any number of results like that -- teams win games when they are not the better team all the time. From your point of view, I'd imagine you're apalled and calling for an NFL playoff overhaul because they Cleveland Browns didn't get in. Heck, they beat both Kansas City and the New York Jets and both of those teams get to be in the playoffs.

Makes sense right? Of course it doesn't -- just because the Browns beat both of those teams doesn't mean they are a better football team.

Those are the kinds of claims you end up making when you just say "well USC pounded Michigan, so they're a better team." Of course they just pounded Michigan, so what? **** happens. It doesn't make them a better football team just because they won.

[dr. fager]

I don't know what the battle is really about here, as a Michigan fan I was pretty disgusted outplayed and outcoached. Why it took them 2 1/2 quarters to put Henne in the shotgun blows my mind. USC had a great game plan they stopped the run.....and that was that.

and Gander please....Big Ten fans are no worse than Red Sox fans.....

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

well them losing to UCLA has everything to do with it, when we're talking about their "pounding" of Michigan indicating that they're a better football team. if we're going to use head to head matchups to determine that one team better than another -- then we're right back at having the tough debate as to whether oregon st. is better than USC, aren't we? i've never claimed that USC was "lowly," I just don't think they're a better football team than Michigan. You won't find anyone on any board who has been around me for any of the last five years who recalls me ever being a Big Ten apologist, or an any team apologist for that matter....because I have never been one. This is the first time in my entire life that I've claimed anything like this regarding college football (oh wait, i don't want to be a liar. i did the same thing for florida st. when they had charlie ward and notre dame beat them but i still thought florida state was the better team when i was maybe about 10 years old. wouldn't want to get caught in that fishy situation of you unearthing a witness to that!) -- because I'm not one to go blindly to bat for a team just because of their conference or where I live. It's a battle I've chosen specifically because they're not a better team than Michigan.

You can point to any number of results like that -- teams win games when they are not the better team all the time. From your point of view, I'd imagine you're apalled and calling for an NFL playoff overhaul because they Cleveland Browns didn't get in. Heck, they beat both Kansas City and the New York Jets and both of those teams get to be in the playoffs.

Makes sense right? Of course it doesn't -- just because the Browns beat both of those teams doesn't mean they are a better football team.

Those are the kinds of claims you end up making when you just say "well USC pounded Michigan." So what? It doesn't make them a better football team.

I agree, Brian...

The truth is... these are humans and humans have off days (much like horses.) When the team isn't playing as a true "team", then they're not going to play their best. It was obvious to me (neutral person) that Michigan did NOT play their best and therefore the Rose Bowl was not a good indication of who is actually the better football team. JMO...