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Old 01-06-2007, 04:23 PM
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Played a $8 p4 at gulf 8 / 6,10 / 3569 / 8

alive to a single and what do I do ? DD savers on the 369 with 7, 11 in the last. of course i do nothing with the 5 chatian to save

Why didn't they have a pick 3 for the last 3 races at gulfstream ? I played a small ticket for the p4 and planned to spread out in the final p3, only there wasn't a p3 for r $8 - 10.

All my savers whent down the tubes, wish me luck
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Old 01-06-2007, 04:31 PM
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there's not much you can do. you singled and so just enjoy being right and hope and expect it continues for another 15 minutes. Two fingers of decent scotch a few minutes to post time is my only recommendation.
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Old 01-06-2007, 04:36 PM
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This card is HARD. Fact is that if you like a horse and that horse runs well, you should get paid, especially in the 5th race. You could easily see a couple of these horses on the Derby Trail.

Race 3

#3 West to Durango (12/1ML): W2D looks like a horse that wanted nothing to do with the Poly. Has been working up a storm on Gulfstream's actual surface (not a PMM shipper). While Pitts' numbers off this type of layoff aren't particular strong, that might help the number on this horse. Those works, plus the all important jump from a 3yr to a 4yr spells PLAY ME.

Race 5

This is one hell of a race, I can find about 7 horses that I could argue. That being said, the two horses that I will be talking about #2 Green Secret and #6 Touch a Prince.

#2 Green Secret(5/1ML) is a KMc trainee that brings a typical MSW win 1st out work pattern for a STRONG 1st out trainer. Darley homebred could make some noise on 'da Trail'

#6 Touch a Prince (10/1ML) is a hunch play for me. Last year, their was an article talking about how Bobby Frankel can not be named as the trainer for PMM trainee, some Florida rule about something. Whatever the fact, rest assure that Frankel is the actual trainer of those horse and last year a few horses sunk in under Lynch's name to run really well (I think On Board Again was one of them at like 15/1 in an MSW race). Besides all that, this horse has been working well and gets Kent D.

Race 7

#3 Blazing Pursuit (20/1ML): Man do I think this horse is going to run HUGE tomorrow. Given the expected pace scenario and the great clock that Javy has in his melon, you are going to be looking at a horse that is gonna come a flying at the end and make things awful interesting. Besides that commentary, BP loves GP with 2 wins in 4 starts, and some great works since getting down to Palm Meadows. While Toner doesn't excel with layoffs, hard to ignore 15/1 or better on this horse.
Nice job with Green Secret! West to Durango was second too.
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Old 01-06-2007, 04:38 PM
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Played a $8 p4 at gulf 8 / 6,10 / 3569 / 8

alive to a single and what do I do ? DD savers on the 369 with 7, 11 in the last. of course i do nothing with the 5 chatian to save

Why didn't they have a pick 3 for the last 3 races at gulfstream ? I played a small ticket for the p4 and planned to spread out in the final p3, only there wasn't a p3 for r $8 - 10.

All my savers whent down the tubes, wish me luck

Know how you feel, my friend. I have just really seriously gotten into playing Pick-3 and Pick-4 wagers and hit one of each last Sunday with some very nervous moments just like the one you're in now.

The best you can do is just be happy that you got there and didn't get knocked out earlier -- and enjoy watching the last race.

I know that's shitty advice, because I know exactly how your stomach feels right now if you're looking at a potential nice payoff.

Good luck!
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Old 01-06-2007, 04:38 PM
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Just finished going through the Thoro-sheets for this and I couldn't agree more, this is TOUGH.

1st: 1, Truer than True.. was going to play him last week at Calder, only thing not to like is Vet scratch and probable favorite.. 4 Mostly.. 0-2-X in last with trouble (Steve?)

2nd: Very contentious race, maybe the 8 Gold Reserve, lightly raced and shortening up.

3rd: 5 Robbies Charm ran huge # at GP last year, 3rd off layoff for this... likely favorite 7 Bedford Falls looks solid

4th: Anyone of these are fast enough to win... have been chasing 2 Sinkwich... 8 Jabbok coming off 2 consecutive tops, nice spacing

5th: 3 Laser, coming off big debut # and getting Lasix

6th: 2 Optimist Girl, fastest coming in (but not by much), off a bit of a layoff

7th: another one where all are fast enough, 1 & 4, High Finance and Hither Lane are best prices (other than Scav's Blazing Pursuit)

8th: 6 Classic Campaign, loved him in last when he missed the break, right back hopefully at a price

9th: VERY DIFFICULT, all button?

10th: 2 Hatch, only 4 starts in last 2 years, but fits...7 Cresson is very solid..
Question for Steve, or anyone, 9 Lycurgus, previous turf #'s are slow, but he woke up with 2 good ones on the dirt, then a big bounce.. what to make of him back on turf (and a big price)?
Great job!
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Old 01-06-2007, 04:43 PM
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Gus (Bogey) alive to the 7-11 in the GP P4... Lessgo Gus...
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Old 01-06-2007, 04:46 PM
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tough one PG.

Was pulling for you.
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Old 01-06-2007, 04:47 PM
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Congrats Bogey!
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Old 01-06-2007, 04:51 PM
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BINGO!!!!!! Thanks everyone, I hope some were able to cash as well.
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$1,546.30 Gus!! The DT Selections Page and ATRAB.. The hits just keep on coming...!! Great job... After taking care of the diaper bill last week, now you can start a college fund account for the new daughter...
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$1,546.30 Gus!! The DT Selections Page and ATRAB.. The hits just keep on coming...!! Great job... After taking care of the diaper bill last week, now you can start a college fund account for the new daughter...
Why did I single SNS?
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Old 01-06-2007, 05:00 PM
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$1,546.30 Gus!! The DT Selections Page and ATRAB.. The hits just keep on coming...!! Great job... After taking care of the diaper bill last week, now you can start a college fund account for the new daughter...
Steve, LOL,I really appreciate it the compliments.
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Old 01-06-2007, 05:03 PM
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tough one PG.

Was pulling for you.

Where's my heart pills ? I'm going out for the Scotch now ! I'll be completely bald by next week !

Nice going Bogey, couldn't see the 11 winning at a flat mile from that post, as my final savers went on the 7 / 8,11 Gee g-ds testing me awfully early this year.
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Old 01-06-2007, 05:03 PM
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nice bogey.congrats...penna /corny hook up was key..
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Old 01-06-2007, 05:22 PM
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Thanks, Sightseek, PG, & Hooves.

Hooves, Corny has been the key in a couple of my PK4's the last few years. He's a very good rider, I've always been a fan since his early days at Calder. Now a have 1546.30 reasons to like him more. He did a great job with Chatain in the Hals Hope.
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Old 01-06-2007, 11:23 PM
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Race 3

#3 West to Durango (12/1ML): W2D looks like a horse that wanted nothing to do with the Poly. Has been working up a storm on Gulfstream's actual surface (not a PMM shipper). While Pitts' numbers off this type of layoff aren't particular strong, that might help the number on this horse. Those works, plus the all important jump from a 3yr to a 4yr spells PLAY ME.

Well, at 14/1, you got an unbelievable run at West to Durango. This being said, this horse will improve dramatically with racing as he was still extremely green coming off the turn AND he went a 44 half, 2 wide the whole time. Won't get 14/1 next out unless they get real creative and bump him in class, which is possible. $10.40 Place and a $97 exacta got ya healthy and a couple rounds for later on during the card

Race 5

This is one hell of a race, I can find about 7 horses that I could argue. That being said, the two horses that I will be talking about #2 Green Secret and #6 Touch a Prince.

#2 Green Secret(5/1ML) is a KMc trainee that brings a typical MSW win 1st out work pattern for a STRONG 1st out trainer. Darley homebred could make some noise on 'da Trail'

#6 Touch a Prince (10/1ML) is a hunch play for me. Last year, their was an article talking about how Bobby Frankel can not be named as the trainer for PMM trainee, some Florida rule about something. Whatever the fact, rest assure that Frankel is the actual trainer of those horse and last year a few horses sunk in under Lynch's name to run really well (I think On Board Again was one of them at like 15/1 in an MSW race). Besides all that, this horse has been working well and gets Kent D.

Another race like yesterday's tout that this race was a tail of two worlds for us. Touch of Prince didn't run a lick and isn't recommend to play next out, that is about as much as I can say about him. Green Secret though, is an auto playback in his next race, ESPECIALLY if he gets blinkers added. This is a horse with extremely talent in my opinion, but hung a little at the end to end up getting DH'ed. What was interesting is that it looked like Jara thought he had put the 3 away on the final turn with him looking under his arm but as stated, just hung a tiny bit. Will improve next out, ESPECIALLY with Blinkers. $6.20W/$6.80P, $30 Exacta, along with a $155 pick three continued with the healthness

Race 7

#3 Blazing Pursuit (20/1ML): Man do I think this horse is going to run HUGE tomorrow. Given the expected pace scenario and the great clock that Javy has in his melon, you are going to be looking at a horse that is gonna come a flying at the end and make things awful interesting. Besides that commentary, BP loves GP with 2 wins in 4 starts, and some great works since getting down to Palm Meadows. While Toner doesn't excel with layoffs, hard to ignore 15/1 or better on this horse.

Watching this race gave me a TON of information. Fact is that Blazing Purrsuit was up against it today as from what I can tell, an unfront bias was prevelent. That being said, at 27/1, he was a decent play given his numbers. Now for the good stuff, High Finance is an AUTO play next out, in what will probably be a rise in class. He just never got a hole to run through and when he did, he shot through it and finishing extremely well.
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Nice hit Gus, would love to get on the board with one of those
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Old 01-07-2007, 06:27 AM
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questions and comments from yesterday, maybe I can learn something. I played 2 horses coming off vet scratches, both ran poorly. I know there is no one answer, but how big a negative factor is this?
Race 1... Desormeaux somehow finds himself 3 wide throughout breaking from the rail? Tough to predict that.

Race 4... rhetorical question, how many lengths would Sinkwich have won by if Castellano had gotten him loose at any point during the stretch?

Race 5... did anyone else think Laser got his nose up in the last step? I know it was close, but that dead heat cost me.

Race 6... this was wide open, winner was one of many at thoro-9 level, couldn't play at 4-1 odds.. brings me to my next question: I played the 2 who was bet dead on the board (14-1)
Decarlo then rode her like a conditioning excercise. How to tell difference between solid overlay and non-effort/word is out, this ain't the week?

Race 7... High Finance missing the break helped Kelly's Landing immensley, kept him from being hung wide.. something I wasn't sharp enough to anticipate.

Race 8... this one I caught, great ride from Prado on Classic Campaign to find room, made up for the rotten rides I got earlier, although Mott seemed a little annoyed, saying he would have won easier if he had been in the clear.

Race 9.. I agree with Scav, SNS wasn't being pushed to win this one.. Chatain was all out before the top of the stretch, Dominguez wanted to finish well, but wasn't looking to push too hard.

Race 10...the top 3 finishers were all underlays to me, I thought Hatch at the price and breaking from the 2 hole might get a trip... WRONG! I know Lycurgus was 100-1, but Tommy Turner gave him interesting trip, speed horse broke last, rushed up with 7 wide middle move, then took a choke hold before final turn, he did beat 1 horse.

Overall, it was a good day, thanks to catching a few at Aqueduct (thanks Outofthebox) and Classic Campaign.
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