The Donn This Saturday - Page 4

KirisClown · #61 02-01-2007, 07:47 PM

If Chatain can handle 9F he might offer a serious challenge, the others are just nowhere near good enough to beat Invasor.

Cajungator26 · #62 02-01-2007, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Anyone happen to see Strong Contenders trip last out. It was horrendous. I expect a much better effort from him. While Pletcher is firing with just about anything he sends out AP Arrow really has no shot at all in here. I guess if you go by his 2005 form Magna Graduate can be in the money, but that race at Aqueduct, while visually impressive was about a good a set up you could ask for. I think invasor wins well, Strong Contender second and Chatain and Hesandoldsalt battling for 3rd and 4th.

I don't care for Strong Contender's post.

AeWingnut · #63 02-01-2007, 08:55 PM

Penna mentioned that Chatain was a candidate for a bounce after that strong performance. I don't like Invasor's post. Strong Contender has no one to blame but himself for the horrendous trip last time out.

I won't look at the race until Saturday. Think long think something something

Cajungator26 · #64 02-01-2007, 09:00 PM

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Yeah, but he's got speed to his inside so he should be able to get over behind them a bit and who is better than Prado at saving ground?

Not many are better than Prado for saving ground...

hoovesupsideyourhead · #65 02-01-2007, 09:05 PM

ivasor is gonna roll again..me thinks..

ArlJim78 · #66 02-01-2007, 09:53 PM

I look at the Donn like its Invasor's victory lap.

Time to soak it in as the reigning HOY with all the attention this time.

#67 02-01-2007, 10:07 PM

Chatain got a very good trip in the HH. Set up very nicely so I wont get sucked in with this horse. But where do you go? No bet.

Sightseek · #68 02-02-2007, 11:05 AM

Regarding the other races on the card, Nobiz Like Shobiz may be tough, but I like Sam P better than Scat Daddy (even if J.V. choose the latter).

hockey2315 · #69 02-02-2007, 11:35 AM

I doubt Chatain's going to bounce because of the way he's been training. Penna also said that Cornelio says he can run all day- distance won't be a problem. He's the only horse who has a chance to beat Invasor.

#70 02-02-2007, 11:55 AM

Be careful picking a logical favorite in this forum at low odds. You will get blasted by all the long boarders. I agree if you can't double your $$$ on a win but loading up an exacta would easily cover that? Handicap for second, then your kids first words won't be "Wheres the ATM" or "Momma be back". Chris Rock too funny

GenuineRisk · #71 02-02-2007, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig188

depends on who's right behind you.

Preferably...

tycharles01 · #72 02-02-2007, 12:15 PM

What happens if it rains down there?? Any good off track runners on the card

Cajungator26 · #73 02-02-2007, 12:16 PM

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What happens if it rains down there?? Any good off track runners on the card

It's looking like it might... we had tornadoes here in the Central FL area all night. It was awful... people dead and homes destroyed.

tycharles01 · #74 02-02-2007, 12:17 PM

Ya i am watching it now, lucky this week tho I was up that way last weekend

#75 02-02-2007, 05:56 PM

Funny the mood changes to the weather. Point taken, I guess.

#76 02-02-2007, 05:57 PM

The key is IF???

Scav · #77 02-02-2007, 10:18 PM

Speaking in TG terms, of all horses, Magna Graduate is the fastest horse, so far. That being said, I think he bounces to the moon. Two horses that you have to watch out here are Hesanoldsalt and Strong Contender. Each horse has some solid reasoning IMO. I am going to be gambling on the fact that Invasor is not 100% cranked. He was kept in training for ONE GOAL, the Dubai World Cup, another Grade 1 gets him NOTHING. At 3/5, he is beatable.

Most of Salt's family improved with age, and his last race was his 'best' race yet as far as figures. If he is keen earlier, he is toast as their is alot of bs speed in this race.

Now SC is a horse that I just can't figure out. That being said, he is just as fast as Invasor and will 5 or 6/1. If he runs to his LAD or that huge Belmont race, he wins here, and maybe quite easily.

I think the way you play this race is in the pick threes, all the hilarious public will be singling Invasor (my guess is about 85% of the tickets will have invasor on the ticket somewhere). Be part of that 15% and the $20 pick three ticket that you played might get you back a grand.

ArlJim78 · #78 02-02-2007, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav

Speaking in TG terms, of all horses, Magna Graduate is the fastest horse, so far. That being said, I think he bounces to the moon. Two horses that you have to watch out here are Hesanoldsalt and Strong Contender. Each horse has some solid reasoning IMO. I am going to be gambling on the fact that Invasor is not 100% cranked. He was kept in training for ONE GOAL, the Dubai World Cup, another Grade 1 gets him NOTHING. At 3/5, he is beatable.

Most of Salt's family improved with age, and his last race was his 'best' race yet as far as figures. If he is keen earlier, he is toast as their is alot of bs speed in this race.

Now SC is a horse that I just can't figure out. That being said, he is just as fast as Invasor and will 5 or 6/1. If he runs to his LAD or that huge Belmont race, he wins here, and maybe quite easily.

I think the way you play this race is in the pick threes, all the hilarious public will be singling Invasor (my guess is about 85% of the tickets will have invasor on the ticket somewhere). Be part of that 15% and the $20 pick three ticket that you played might get you back a grand.

Invasor will not lose to this bunch. You're wasting your money. I'd pick a different favorite to knock off. McLaughlin said because the DWC is not so far away from the BCC, they never let up on him. He as as close to 100% as he's going to be and he doesn't need to be at 100% to cruise tomorrow.
that's my opinion.

brianwspencer · #79 02-02-2007, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav

Speaking in TG terms, of all horses, Magna Graduate is the fastest horse, so far. That being said, I think he bounces to the moon. Two horses that you have to watch out here are Hesanoldsalt and Strong Contender. Each horse has some solid reasoning IMO. I am going to be gambling on the fact that Invasor is not 100% cranked. He was kept in training for ONE GOAL, the Dubai World Cup, another Grade 1 gets him NOTHING. At 3/5, he is beatable.

Most of Salt's family improved with age, and his last race was his 'best' race yet as far as figures. If he is keen earlier, he is toast as their is alot of bs speed in this race.

Now SC is a horse that I just can't figure out. That being said, he is just as fast as Invasor and will 5 or 6/1. If he runs to his LAD or that huge Belmont race, he wins here, and maybe quite easily.

I think the way you play this race is in the pick threes, all the hilarious public will be singling Invasor (my guess is about 85% of the tickets will have invasor on the ticket somewhere). Be part of that 15% and the $20 pick three ticket that you played might get you back a grand.

1.) i bet more then 85% of the public has invasor on their ticket. those trying to leave him off completely are just stabbing at huge payoffs, not legitimately capping the races. going more than one deep? maaaaaaaaybe. leaving him off totally? dead money anyway because those guys aren't going to hit the other races

2.) I haven't seen the TG sheets....Magna is really faster than Invasor?!

Scav · #80 02-02-2007, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by brianwspencer

1.) i bet more then 85% of the public has invasor on their ticket. those trying to leave him off completely are just stabbing at huge payoffs, not legitimately capping the races. going more than one deep? maaaaaaaaybe. leaving him off totally? dead money anyway because those guys aren't going to hit the other races

2.) I haven't seen the TG sheets....Magna is really faster than Invasor?!

What I am doing is playing a ticket like this, probably 5x4xStrong Contender. There is SERIOUS value on SC in the pick three's, maybe 20/1 or 30/1 in the pick threes, becuase everyone will be singling Invasor. All i will need to do is win the other two races, and I am fairly confident that I can get there, a $20 win wager on SC will get you back $120, but this ticket could yield at a minimum of $300 if I get there, and possibly as much as 1 or 2k if a bomb runs in the 1st or 2nd leg.....worth a $20 investment, possible a $100 investment because I have a feeling that SC runs his rear end off tomorrow, especially given that Ward can't blame post or anything else as he is locked and loaded from that area, there is a ton of speed so getting hung wide isn't going to happen. THEN I can unload against him when Ward tries to get tricky and ship him West off only a 30 day layoff and a huge effort