Maiden Derby winners

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by Danzig188

i really wish this bit of fiction would cease. he did not duck exterminator, who was invited, and didn't show to what turned into a match race between man o war and sir barton. and don't forget, sir barton also defeated exterminator-hard to say which of those was the best older horse.
i suppose you can make man o wars stats fit your agenda of him being overrated. have at it.

You might enjoy this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3Xkunfywo4

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

You might enjoy this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3Xkunfywo4

Thanks for posting this... if that horse wasn't GREAT, I don't know what horse is. Built like a brick shithouse.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Thanks for posting this... if that horse wasn't GREAT, I don't know what horse is. Built like a brick shithouse.

My grandfather had a statue of Man O' War that I would stare at all the time...I blame him for my horse obsession.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Thanks for posting this... if that horse wasn't GREAT, I don't know what horse is. Built like a brick shithouse.

He was great at beating anemic fields of truely weak horses, from a foal crop that was 1,680 in size.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

He was great at beating anemic fields of truely weak horses, from a foal crop that was 1,680 in size.

I don't care who he beat or didn't beat... just LOOK AT HIM. Jesus...

I haven't seen a thoroughbred with a neck like that in my lifetime!

[Danzig]

according to the book i'm now reading by dorothy ours, about man o war, he was part of the fifth smallest foal crop registered.
but i think ID is too hung up on the size of the foal crop. i just got thru to the end of MOW's two year old season, in which he carried 130 earlier than any horse to date, more than once at that!, winning his races geared down and still either tying, nearing, or breaking records. those he faced also set down fast times. matter of fact, upset beat the record when he beat man o war, and considering that man o war was left at the start--well, you do the math! what he ran that race in is mindboggling--esp considering he was still only two.

First, to the original subject and maidens winning the Derby: Today it'd be all but impossible unless the maiden had a lot of high quality seconds in graded stakes because you need to be in the top 20 in graded stakes earnings to even qualify to run in the Kentucky Derby.

Now, for the real joke of the thread where people actually are performing revisionist history on Man O'War's career and status as the greatest racehorse in history. Sure a case can be made for either Secretariat, Citation, Native Dancer of even Kelso. But to call Man O'War massively overrated or way overrated and any part overrated is just comical at best and incredibily ignorant at worst. He lost one race in his career, set track and world records for speed, beat a Triple Crown winner straight up in a match race, and then turned into perhaps the greatest sire of all time. Any chance that those of you who think that Man O'War is overrated are part of the Babe Ruth is overrated, Bobby Jones is overrated, and Muhammad Ali is overrated fan club?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by FairPlay

First, to the original subject and maidens winning the Derby: Today it'd be all but impossible unless the maiden had a lot of high quality seconds in graded stakes because you need to be in the top 20 in graded stakes earnings to even qualify to run in the Kentucky Derby.

Now, for the real joke of the thread where people actually are performing revisionist history on Man O'War's career and status as the greatest racehorse in history. Sure a case can be made for either Secretariat, Citation, Native Dancer of even Kelso. But to call Man O'War massively overrated or way overrated and any part overrated is just comical at best and incredibily ignorant at worst. He lost one race in his career, set track and world records for speed, beat a Triple Crown winner straight up in a match race, and then turned into perhaps the greatest sire of all time. Any chance that those of you who think that Man O'War is overrated are part of the Babe Ruth is overrated, Bobby Jones is overrated, and Muhammad Ali is overrated fan club?

i think it's only one poster who says he's overrated, first time i've ever seen MOW called that. i've seen him lower than #1 on peoples all time list, but he's always on the list!!

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by FairPlay

Now, for the real joke of the thread where people actually are performing revisionist history on Man O'War's career and status as the greatest racehorse in history. Sure a case can be made for either Secretariat, Citation, Native Dancer of even Kelso. But to call Man O'War massively overrated or way overrated and any part overrated is just comical at best and incredibily ignorant at worst.

In context to him being rated the #1 horse of the 1900's, of course he's massively overrated, and anyone who can't see that is a complete fool. It's pretty obvious.