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Old 04-15-2007, 04:44 PM
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It seems that almost every year the Derby pictured is muddled. This year is no expection and there is no "standout" horse. Last year, the three that I figured would be the "three betting" choices were - Barbaro, Brother Derek and Lawyer Ron. Sweetsouthernsaint snuck in late to be the slight favorite over the my top three. This year that horse may be Curlin , he may be even better... but has a lot of history to buck. I can't come up with three standouts like last year off the preps this year. I thought the Blue Grass would clear up that picture, but just made it harder. If the Derby was run today, these are the odds that I think the public will give for the respected starters...and (what I think they should be).

Street Sense 5-1 my odds: (4-1)
NoBiz Like Shobiz 4-1 (8-1)
Circular Quay 7-1 (10-1)
Curlin 8-1 (12-1)
Scat Daddy 10-1 (10-1)
Great Hunter 12-1 (7-1)
Any Given Saturday 10-1 (15-1)
Cowtown Cat 15-1 (12-1)
Hard Spun 20-1 (12-1)
Dominican 25-1 (20-1)
Tiago 25-1 (35-1)
Stormello 25-1 (20-1)
Zanjero 30-1 (20-1)

anybody else will be 30-1 or more and realistically should be that

i plan on making a huge win and place wager on NOBIZ and 5-1 will be fine with me.
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Old 04-15-2007, 04:48 PM
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i plan on making a huge win and place wager on NOBIZ and 5-1 will be fine with me.
Better you than me...still don't trust him and in a full field of horses...no thanks
Better value elsewhere.
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Old 04-15-2007, 08:31 PM
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id like to see about 10/1+++ on great hunter.....i think that ill see just below that
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Old 04-15-2007, 08:57 PM
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Default Why so high on Dominican?

First, I think your line is pretty good. The fact that I can only identify one horse to argue about is a good indication. I am not sure where Dominican is on the future odds. But, the horse ran a great race and has run well every time he went out. Why is he all the way up at 20-1 in odds? I think 20-1 is a steal. I would put him at 12-1 and still take the bet.

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Old 04-16-2007, 03:33 PM
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Math wasn't one of my better subjects...
Your "line" was way better than the usual morning line nonsense.

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Old 04-16-2007, 04:53 PM
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Nobody is talking about Street Sense. Don't rule out this horse as he LOVES Churchill, and he basically ran a similar race in the Bluegrass to the race in the Lanes End last fall. He made the lead then was a little short. We all know what he did in his next start. Don't forget what Carl did with Unbridled in the Bluegrass and then 3 weeks later under the spires.
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Old 04-16-2007, 05:30 PM
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just for comparison, these are the best prices available from british bookies:

Curlin (5/1) ,
Scat Daddy (6/1) ,
Street Sense (7/1) ,
Nobiz Like Shobiz (9/1) ,
Circular Quay (10/1) ,
Dominican (14/1) ,
Great Hunter (14/1) ,
Notional (14/1) ,
Tiago (16/1) ,
Any Given Saturday (20/1) ,
Hard Spun (20/1) ,
Chelokee (25/1) ,
Cowtown Cat (25/1) ,
Stormello (25/1) ,
Zanjero (25/1) ,
Air Commander (33/1) ,
Deadly Dealer (33/1) ,
Drums of Thunder (33/1) ,
Ketchikan (33/1) ,
King Of The Roxy (33/1)

any nice bets there?
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