Tom Fool + Dwyer

[VOL JACK]

Originally Posted by miraja2

I really like Nobiz Like Showbiz in the Dwyer.
He ran what was arguably his best race ever in the Holy Bull off of a similar long layoff. Although AGS's strong work on Friday seems to indicate that he might be ready on Wednesday, his performances in Tampa this winter/spring seems to indicate that he runs stronger 2nd off.
Sightseeing and First Defence are simply a step below these two in my opinion. In the Wood Memorial, Nobiz zipped the third quarter while Sightseeing loped along off the pace. Despite that favorable scenario, he couldn't get by Nobiz in the stretch. His victory in the G2 Peter Pan on this track will probably mean he will be overbet.
First Defence has won races against MSW and N1X competition when he had his own way on the front end of sprint races. I don't think he is in the same league as AGS or Nobiz.

As our fearless leader (BTW) likes to say; First Defence eliminates the take out for me.

I don't think U can compare this race and layoff for AGS to the one this march. Pletcher knew it was going to be a long year for this colt and wasn't going to have him primed for his 1st start of the year. I think Todd realizes this is a great spot to pick up the colt 1st graded stake before he runs into Curlin, R2R, and S.S.

Originally Posted by VOL JACK

I bet Prom Shoes in the N. Dancer @ CD against Chelokee and he didn't pick his feet up.

I didn't know that. Well that automatically makes Sightseeing a toss.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

note he's undefeated at Belmont.

True, but I would say that his best races at both 2 and 3 came at Aqu, not Belmont. Who has he actually beaten in those two Belmont races?

[VOL JACK]

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

I didn't know that. Well that automatically makes Sightseeing a toss.

I am just pointing out that the horse that Sightseeing had to gut out a photo with came back to run a clunker.
I know U don't care who I lose my $$ on.

I really like posters like U that when others are trying to have a legit convo. about a big race U are just looking for the opp. to make a smart ass post.

Originally Posted by VOL JACK

I am just pointing out that the horse that Sightseeing had to gut out a photo with came back to run a clunker.
I know U don't care who I lose my $$ on.

I really like posters like U that when others are trying to have a legit convo. about a big race U are just looking for the opp. to make a smart ass post.

A legit convo? All you implied was because Prom Shoes had a bad race at CD, that Sightseeing is overrated. That's just ridiculous.

I'm giving legit reasons why he has a shot. Yes, I am a smart ass. Boo hoo.

Here's another reason why I think Sightseeing has a shot...

First Defence looks like he's being trained to steal the race. NoBiz seems like a horse who isn't comfortable if he doesn't have the lead before the far turn. He's not getting it if First Defence doesn't stumble out of the gate. They'll be battling for the lead and that will leave the stalkers Any Given Saturday and Sightseeing with a legitimate chance.

Also Sightseeing improved dramatically May 31st work to his June 10th work and he's adding blinkers for the race. I'm thinking (and would like to know) blinkers were added for that June 10th work.

Thank you.

[VOL JACK]

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

A legit convo? All you implied was because Prom Shoes had a bad race at CD, that Sightseeing is overrated. That's just ridiculous.

I'm giving legit reasons why he has a shot. Yes, I am a smart ass. Boo hoo.

Here's another reason why I think Sightseeing has a shot...

First Defence looks like he's being trained to steal the race. NoBiz seems like a horse who isn't comfortable if he doesn't have the lead before the far turn. He's not getting it if First Defence doesn't stumble out of the gate. They'll be battling for the lead and that will leave the stalkers Any Given Saturday and Sightseeing with a legitimate chance.

Also Sightseeing improved dramatically May 31st work to his June 10th work and he's adding blinkers for the race. I'm thinking (and would like to know) blinkers were added for that June 10th work.

Thank you.

Sounds like the Exacta to me.

[Cajungator26]

Supposedly, they're removing the blinkers off of Nobiz.

[hockey2315]

First Defence would win if Frankel wasn't going to scratch him. . . Which really annoys me. . .

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

First Defence would win if Frankel wasn't going to scratch him. . . Which really annoys me. . .

He's scratching Saint Anddan too! This guy has become a running gag, LOL!

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

He's scratching Saint Anddan too! This guy has become a running gag, LOL!

that's two entries now for saint anndan that he'll scratch...and i want to see him run again.

and yes, tagg took blinkers off nobiz a few weeks ago. probably made him too rank still.
i will be pulling for sightseeing. as for commentator, how to know who will show up? he's so undependable.

[XIIPointStables]

What is the deal with Frankel?

Is he a great trainer because he finds the best (softest?) spots for his horses?

Or a weak trainer because he's too cautious.

He seems to be doing this a ton lately. And don't get me wrong, I'm pissed he's not going to give First Defence a shot but it seems like it's a trend with this guy and not just a one-time thing.

[Bobby Fischer]

saint anddan scratched?? FIRST DEFENse *groan*

Is there a link to see scratches for a day in advance?
Would be very helpful.

thanks

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Bobby Fischer

saint anddan scratched?? FIRST DEFENse *groan*

Is there a link to see scratches for a day in advance?
Would be very helpful.

thanks

Nah, these were just word from the DRF.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Nah, these were just word from the DRF.

THE TWIST....LOL,,,my clocker says rondo is sore....lmfao

[Holland Hacker]

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

Also Sightseeing improved dramatically May 31st work to his June 10th work and he's adding blinkers for the race. I'm thinking (and would like to know) blinkers were added for that June 10th work.

According to Todays TDN Sightseeing "has had a couple of good works with blinkers . . ."

[gamblin4ever]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

He's scratching Saint Anddan too! This guy has become a running gag, LOL!

With all the early speed in the Tom Fool, I'm thinking Saint Anddan could sit right off the pace and make a late run when Bejarano asks for it.
But, if Commentator is ready to run, the race will be for 2nd.
I plan on using St. Anddan under Commentator if Frankel doesnt scratch out.

[gamblin4ever]

Originally Posted by XIIPointStables

What is the deal with Frankel?

Is he a great trainer because he finds the best (softest?) spots for his horses?

Or a weak trainer because he's too cautious.

He seems to be doing this a ton lately. And don't get me wrong, I'm pissed he's not going to give First Defence a shot but it seems like it's a trend with this guy and not just a one-time thing.

Most of Frankel's horses it seems gets scratched every other race.
There should be rules against being able to do this..

[Danzig]

argh, frankel!!

http://www.equibase.com/premium/changes/BEL-changes.asp

[miraja2]

This scratch really sucks.
I liked Nobiz to win it even if the Frankel horse was in, but with that one scratched, Nobiz becomes extremely obvious, because now he shouldn't have any problem making the early lead at a comfortable pace. He will probably be sent off at odds-on. No value in the race now at all.

[Bobby Fischer]

I would prefer there to be a minimum of 8 entries for the graded stakes. I know that would be a very tough job. (take a real professional to do that ).
5 and 6 horse fields and we get a scratch or 2 and