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Old 12-29-2007, 12:28 AM
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call me crazy but i like rudy r ..give em a speed horse and hes money..he has his weak points .traffic and pace..but given a 1 mission go to the front and ride ,,hes very good .more so than some "name jocks"
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Old 12-29-2007, 12:29 AM
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call me crazy but i like rudy r ..give em a speed horse and hes money..he has his weak points .traffic and pace..but given a 1 mission go to the front and ride ,,hes very good .more so than some "name jocks"


OK....you're crazy.

I'll never forget the five horse field at Belmont where he got disqualified for effectively fouling himself.
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Old 12-29-2007, 12:34 AM
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OK....you're crazy.

I'll never forget the five horse field at Belmont where he got disqualified for effectively fouling himself.
I gotta see this, can you get me a date and race number?
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Old 12-29-2007, 12:37 AM
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frankly im shocked.......put him on martin garcias mounts he wins 90 perc
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Old 12-29-2007, 12:48 AM
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I gotta see this, can you get me a date and race number?

It was a few years ago.....but it was a real knee slapper.
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Old 12-29-2007, 03:50 AM
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It was a few years ago.....but it was a real knee slapper.
Didn't Julie Krone once claim foul against her entry-mate?
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Old 12-29-2007, 10:25 AM
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Didn't Julie Krone once claim foul against her entry-mate?

Yup, and PG Johnson never rode her again.
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Old 12-29-2007, 10:42 AM
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LOL@ this whole thread, are you serious? hooves youre a fucin idiot since you wanna call names and always have been since you and john frank showed up for the sole purpose of just talking sh1t. thing are still the same with you, i see you know absolutely nothing. again sore horses go to the track and race every single day at all class levels. again i heard it from somebody who was actually on the horses back. theres a reason why nick put the horse in for a tag and theres a reason it took the horse so long to run back off the claim, some people have no clue
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Old 12-29-2007, 10:50 AM
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This horse has been the source of some pretty outrageous claims recently on this board. Well, he's running in tomorrow's first race at Aqueduct. Now, he is probably in too tough, and is being ridden by the worst rider at Aqueduct ( if not the entire country ) in Felix Ortiz, but even if only for educational purposes, I recommend that you carefully watch the replay of his last race. I think it will refute the silly notion that he didn't run well. My guess? With even a professional jockey he would have won and it is hard to deny that he was at least close to the best horse in that race.

Maybe he'll get another boneheaded ride tomorrow and then get a rider switch, Rudy Rodriguez would be a huge move up, and find a good spot for the following race.


oh god, the ride didnt cost him the race and the horse that won was much the best that day. why i even bother responding i dont know. howbout the day he was claimed for 25k and was pulled up early that day? YOURE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT HE WAS NEVER SORE WHILE WITH NICK ZITO, LOL SERIOUSLY WTF ARE YOU SMOKING?
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Old 12-29-2007, 10:55 AM
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oh god, the ride didnt cost him the race and the horse that won was much the best that day. why i even bother responding i dont know. howbout the day he was claimed for 25k and was pulled up early that day? YOURE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT HE WAS NEVER SORE WHILE WITH NICK ZITO, LOL SERIOUSLY WTF ARE YOU SMOKING?

yes i have nothing better to do with my time then come here and lie/make outrageous claims, thats why the horse was dropped in for a tag to get claimed and got pulled up that day, DC is the soundest thing on the grounds solely cuz he comes from the NZ barn
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Old 12-29-2007, 12:49 PM
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Doc Cheney got another very poor ride. I usually don't get too down on jockeys, but Ortiz might want to look into a different career.
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Old 12-29-2007, 06:54 PM
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No one is disputing sore horses go to the track daily. As has been mentioned, Banshee Breeze ran sore for the better part of 2 seasons. But you insinuated Zito ran a hurt horse, which is untrue. Again, I'll take someone's word who is friends with the former trainer of the horse. Frankly, it's tiresome hearing about how much you know. Shouldn't such a racing expert like yourself be doing more in the game than hotwalking $5k claimers?

I know, I know, you're an owner.
yeah he wasnt hurt, why the hell was he pulled up the day NZ layed him in for 25k and he got claimed that day? justa coincidence right? nick didnt know it was time to get ridda him huh? nother solid effort from DC today, god id hate to see how the poor thing came back after the race today, i honestly cant believe some are as naive as they appear to be
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Old 12-29-2007, 07:00 PM
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Hi there!!
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Old 12-29-2007, 07:01 PM
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Old 12-29-2007, 07:07 PM
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I know that guy!
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Old 12-29-2007, 08:54 PM
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I thought Birdbird was a little interesting. Speaking of bad rides.....take a look at the replay of his last race.
Eddie Casto again takes the cake when I pass on him.
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Old 01-25-2008, 02:56 PM
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I assume everybody got fat.

Funny, he didn't look lame today with a different rider.
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Old 01-25-2008, 03:06 PM
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yes its tough when you have to defend something for no reason
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Old 01-25-2008, 03:10 PM
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yes its tough when you have to defend something for no reason
The whole thing is laughable......and frankly stands as a great example of the foolishness of so-called " backstretch info " versus watching races and handicapping. To anyobe who understands race watching, Doc Cheney ran very well in both his last two starts, and couldn't overcome bad race riding and circumstance. Today he had a new rider and a race filled with pace on a track that seemed to be playing at least somewhat fair.

It took a great ride to win it, and he certainly is no superstar, but if you paid attention you cashed. And, of course, didn't pay attention to absurd supposed backstretch jabber.
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Old 01-25-2008, 05:43 PM
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Nice Job Andy. I wish I had remembered this thread!! I totally forgot about this horse. 5-1 was pretty nice. Would have been higher had the entry scratched. Got a terrible ride last time out. Nice ride this time!
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