This weekends's races

Gander · #1 08-08-2006, 01:05 PM

Anyone want to talk about this weekend's races rather than just turn this place into a sopa opera? Isnt that the whole reason many of us came here and dont post on that awful ESPN board anymore?

Buffymommy · #2 08-08-2006, 01:08 PM

OK Gander, give me some winning selections. I am getting killed in Kev's contest. They have to be horses that are NOT going to scratch.

Seriously though, I think it is just because it is a slow day. Once entries come out, horse talk will start up again.

Gander · #3 08-08-2006, 01:10 PM

I hope so. Last Tuesday was a good day on this board. Today's threads are siappointing to say the least.

I have asked about the Sword Dancer and the Vanderbilt at Saratoga but nobody wants to talk about anyhting to do with horse racing. ESPN all over again, and a shame because Steve worked so hard on this and its awesome.

ArlJim78 · #4 08-08-2006, 01:13 PM

Nice idea, but not likely. I've noticed that Tuesday and Wednesdays are real slow for posts regarding upcoming races, mainly consumed by soap opera stuff and alternative identity chatter. Thursday and Friday the attention starts to snap back to the task at hand.

Shouldn't be hard too hard to focus this week being that it's Million week and all. Nice grass races on tap.

zippyneedsawin · #5 08-08-2006, 01:14 PM

It's hard to talk about races when you don't know the entries yet.. But I'm looking forward to mapping out my selections for the NTRA Pick 4!! ( Sword Dancer, Beverly D., Secretariat & Arlington Million) I can't wait to have some discussions on that!

Scav · #6 08-08-2006, 01:14 PM

Tim, DISAPPOINTED IN YOU for not mentioned Arlington....THIS IS MY KENTUCKY DERBY....OH MAN

Secretariat is Showing Up, don't go anywhere else with this

Beverly and Million are WIDE open this year. Last years Beverly had more quality(Probably the best race and the best talent I have seen in one race, IN PERSON) but this race is ultra competitive.

I haven't seen a Million like this one in years. Maybe the year Silvano won. It all changes if English Channel comes but he isn't so it is wide open

I think i am going Showing Up, Euro, Euro

I am really starting to like Phoenix Reach or whatever his name is...I am going on Saturday morning (6amish) to see how he is looking. I will have confirmed picks in the ultimate WRITE UP on Friday night, if I am not too hammered from the pre-million party

Gander · #7 08-08-2006, 01:14 PM

Alright, you got a point. I'll be back on when horse racing talk resumes and the soap opera stuff goes away. Later.

GPK · #8 08-08-2006, 01:33 PM

Tim...nothing is out yet for this weekend, that I have seen. You obviously know the race I am most looking forward to.

Howard sends out Quest Star in a nice field of turf routers tomorrow in a 100K/OC
Dutrow reals Sabre Baby right back from that off the turf race back on the 4th that Em B. Aye somehow managed to win.

Gander · #9 08-08-2006, 01:38 PM

I still cant believe Sabre Baby was bet down to 2/1 in a dirt race given the fact the horse never ran a lick in 5 dirt races. Clearly Dutrow left him in there for a workout. Em b Aye, while not my selection had a way better chance of winning that race than Sabre Baby did. Who in the world was betting Sabre Baby down to 2/1?

Not too interested in the week's races as I dont want to burn any money that I will want to have on Saturday.

GPK · #10 08-08-2006, 01:40 PM

yeah...6 lifetime races on dirt and 1 2nd and 1 3rd to show for it, and those were early in his career.

Gander · #11 08-08-2006, 01:40 PM

Scavs-

We all know ENglish Channel is a very good horse but even if he was in the Arlington Million, the race would still be wide open. Not sure English Channel has done enough to be a cinch in a race like that. He wont even be a walkover in the Sword Dancer which will be a weaker field. Its not like hes beaten Cacique by a lot, and Relaxed Gesture beat him in the Manhattan, even with a very questionable ride.

Scav · #12 08-08-2006, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Gander

Scavs-

We all know ENglish Channel is a very good horse but even if he was in the Arlington Million, the race would still be wide open. Not sure English Channel has done enough to be a cinch in a race like that. He wont even be a walkover in the Sword Dancer which will be a weaker field. Its not like hes beaten Cacique by a lot, and Relaxed Gesture beat him in the Manhattan, even with a very questionable ride.

If English Channel comes here, he is a lock single along with Showing Up. He wouldn't shorten him up unless he was doing really really well and was a lock. The race is soft as is, and maybe Pletcher is like "Grade 1 is a grade 1"

Nostradamus · #13 08-08-2006, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav

If English Channel comes here, he is a lock single along with Showing Up. He wouldn't shorten him up unless he was doing really really well and was a lock. The race is soft as is, and maybe Pletcher is like "Grade 1 is a grade 1"

Showing Up is no lock. Go Between could easily beat him.

Gander · #14 08-08-2006, 02:06 PM

Its a turf race Scavs. Anything can happen. Although I have never seen any turf horse work out as many perfect trips as English Channel has. In his case, its not luck. Good horses work out good trips. This horse is better than I ever thought but I still dont think hes any kind of layover in either of these races. The Sword Dancer may be a bit far for him, no?

ArlJim78 · #15 08-08-2006, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav

If English Channel comes here, he is a lock single along with Showing Up. He wouldn't shorten him up unless he was doing really really well and was a lock. The race is soft as is, and maybe Pletcher is like "Grade 1 is a grade 1"

Hard to consider EC a lock if he comes to the Million. As good as he is there are just too many good horses and too many trip issues that have to go right.
Sure he'll be one of the main contenders but I wouldn't chose the Million as a race to lock down on. imo

slotdirt · #16 08-08-2006, 02:36 PM

I agree with the above that it's hard to really talk racing when we don't even know entries yet. English Channel's whereabouts obviously will effect everything in the two big turf races.

Scav · #17 08-08-2006, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78

Hard to consider EC a lock if he comes to the Million. As good as he is there are just too many good horses and too many trip issues that have to go right.
Sure he'll be one of the main contenders but I wouldn't chose the Million as a race to lock down on. imo

You watch Jim, if English Channel shows up here, he is lock city...

1) he isn't going to piss me off two years in a row

2) Pletcher doesn't waste races, and he has said he wasn't coming here and then he is coming, that is telling me that he sees how open it is, throw he throws his nut turf horse in there to grab a Grade 1, nut city

3) Pletcher shouldn't have opened up his trap about not coming because it ruined the surprise I was getting for GPretard now, thus I am not getting it...tough ish...

Scav · #18 08-08-2006, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Nostradamus

Showing Up is no lock. Go Between could easily beat him.

If you handicap like you did last weekend with Violette's horse, I will consider this statement a blessing

Scav · #19 08-08-2006, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78

Hard to consider EC a lock if he comes to the Million. As good as he is there are just too many good horses and too many trip issues that have to go right.
Sure he'll be one of the main contenders but I wouldn't chose the Million as a race to lock down on. imo

Also, when does EC get trip issues, there is 1 pace horse in this race, The Tin Man, and he is going to be sitting 2nd the whole time, and pouncing on the turn, you and I have seen this type of trip a million times on Arlington's course.

I just hope he comes because it makes my day alot easier, I heard that it is extremely possible that they are running all three grade 1's back to back to back, which they normally don't do, if they do go ahead and do this, it is SU/ALL(10)/EC for $50($500), keep $100 to bet the rest of the card and get hammered and stand at the window during the Million race, and PRAY to the load that a bomb comes in the middle. If it runs chalk,chalk,chalk I get back 1k, I am down with that...Analysis to come on Friday

Jim, I see you in the paddock on Saturday, you normally stand one specific place....

Last year I was on the left side all the way where they saddle the 1 horse, it was awesome, let me know

ArlJim78 · #20 08-08-2006, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav

Also, when does EC get trip issues, there is 1 pace horse in this race, The Tin Man, and he is going to be sitting 2nd the whole time, and pouncing on the turn, you and I have seen this type of trip a million times on Arlington's course.

I just hope he comes because it makes my day alot easier, I heard that it is extremely possible that they are running all three grade 1's back to back to back, which they normally don't do, if they do go ahead and do this, it is SU/ALL(10)/EC for $50($500), keep $100 to bet the rest of the card and get hammered and stand at the window during the Million race, and PRAY to the load that a bomb comes in the middle. If it runs chalk,chalk,chalk I get back 1k, I am down with that...Analysis to come on Friday

Jim, I see you in the paddock on Saturday, you normally stand one specific place....

Last year I was on the left side all the way where they saddle the 1 horse, it was awesome, let me know

That's where I'll be on the left by the one horse and the side where the jockeys come through.