What the 2nd Ammendment is for - Page 4

Payson Dave · #61 02-21-2009, 03:34 PM

Bob,.... are you saying that it would be okay for me to beat you to death with a baseball bat after you cut me off in traffic... or shoud we outlaw baseball bats because in the wrong hands they can be a deadly weapon

GBBob · #62 02-21-2009, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Payson Dave

Bob,.... are you saying that it would be okay for me to beat you to death with a baseball bat after you cut me off in traffic... or shoud we outlaw baseball bats because in the wrong hands they can be a deadly weapon

The amount of effort and follow through to beat someone to death with a baseball bat vs the adrenaline rush of one pull of a semi auto are two different things. And I don't think anyone ever accidently beat themselves, or another person to death with a baseball bat

Payson Dave · #63 02-21-2009, 03:37 PM

I realize that I'm not going to change your mind... I hope you realize that you are not going to change mine

btw one pull of the trigger on a semi-auto is no different that one pull of the trigger on a single shot

GBBob · #64 02-21-2009, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Payson Dave

I realize that I'm not going to change your mind... I hope you realize that you are not going to change mine

yep..although I have to admit that I know I am extreme about my wanting all guns banished, but really think I'm right about drawing the line with semi automatics and up..

anyway...moving on

miraja2 · #65 02-21-2009, 04:11 PM

Did anybody else read the lead story in the Chicago Tribune today?

AeWingnut · #66 02-21-2009, 05:04 PM

in order for evil to triumph
all that has to happen is for a good man to do nothing

"Gun Free" zones always are until they aren't

the only ones that have to worry when an honest man has a gun is a dishonest one.

God created man
Sam Colt made them equal

guns prevent more violent crime than are caused by them..

anyway... in Florida they had to quit putting little stickers on rental cars because Florida allows conceal carry and the thieves knew that the people from out of state didn't have guns

without the 2nd amendment none of the other amendments have teeth

GBBob · #67 02-21-2009, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by miraja2

Did anybody else read the lead story in the Chicago Tribune today?

No..do tell..I'm far way from home

GBBob · #68 02-21-2009, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by AeWingnut

in order for evil to triumph
all that has to happen is for a good man to do nothing

"Gun Free" zones always are until they aren't

the only ones that have to worry when an honest man has a gun is a dishonest one.

God created man
Sam Colt made them equal

guns prevent more violent crime than are caused by them..

anyway... in Florida they had to quit putting little stickers on rental cars because Florida allows conceal carry and the thieves knew that the people from out of state didn't have guns

without the 2nd amendment none of the other amendments have teeth

Well....you kinda' had me at the rental car thing...but the last is

Would somene please tell me why owning a gun, letting your neighbor own a shot gun and letting the weird dude two blocks over owning a machine gun a rite of passage?...it's got to be phallic at some point

miraja2 · #69 02-21-2009, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by GBBob

No..do tell..I'm far way from home

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...,3138980.story

GBBob · #70 02-21-2009, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by miraja2

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...,3138980.story

Well...if we just round up more bad guys, this will take care of itself

dellinger63 · #71 02-21-2009, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by miraja2

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...,3138980.story

if Bowen High School only had a pool. Maybe these gang bangers would be swimming and or drowning instead of shooting.

hi_im_god · #72 02-21-2009, 08:33 PM

i read through the entire thread just now.

the only hope for the future i hold is the knowledge that a handgun is more likely to be used to kill an acquaintance or yourself than a stranger.

so the gene pool seems safe.

dellinger63 · #73 02-21-2009, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by hi_im_god

i read through the entire thread just now.

the only hope for the future i hold is the knowledge that a handgun is more likely to be used to kill an acquaintance or yourself than a stranger.

so the gene pool seems safe.

POST OF THE YEAR!!!!!!!

AeWingnut · #74 02-21-2009, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by hi_im_god

i read through the entire thread just now.

the only hope for the future i hold is the knowledge that a handgun is more likely to be used to kill an acquaintance or yourself than a stranger.

so the gene pool seems safe.

another reason we need conceal carry

AeWingnut · #75 02-21-2009, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by GBBob

Well....you kinda' had me at the rental car thing...but the last is

Would somene please tell me why owning a gun, letting your neighbor own a shot gun and letting the weird dude two blocks over owning a machine gun a rite of passage?...it's got to be phallic at some point

if it saved one life wouldn't it be worth it

Danzig · #76 02-21-2009, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by hi_im_god

i read through the entire thread just now.

the only hope for the future i hold is the knowledge that a handgun is more likely to be used to kill an acquaintance or yourself than a stranger.

so the gene pool seems safe.

considering that most murder victims know their killer (domestic disputes, suicide rates) you're correct. i however don't think ownership of a gun suddenly means you're a crazed, clueless rube bent on destruction.

golfer · #77 02-22-2009, 05:53 AM

By the way, Bob, I was RIGHT

... this has led to interesting and diverse discussion...

http://rense.com/general85/pcrg.htm

Some highlights from the article:

"Gun violence" is not something committed by the vast majority of gun owners. "Gun violence" is the preserve of the criminal elements, such as gangs fighting over drug turf. Criminals are already prohibited from owning guns, but criminals pay no more attention to this law than they do to laws against robbery, rape, and murder. Why do Democrats think that disarming law-abiding citizens will disarm outlaws?

So much for gun bans. They only disarm the law-abiding and leave them defenseless."

Please feel free to replace the word Democrats with Politicians.

ddthetide · #78 02-22-2009, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

a big dog is also a deterrent.
if you do get a gun, make sure both of you know exactly how it operates, and go practice. personally, i prefer a longarm to a handgun. handguns don't have a lot of accuracy. if you have kids, take them with you to the range. teach them as well-not so much to shoot, but to respect the gun and stay away from it.

also, get motion detecting lights for your backyard, front door.

a Very sudden twist to my post. we ARE moving in 6 weeks. we are only going four blocks but we are moving into a gated community and onto the publicly-traded electric company's service. i work for the City owned electric company. now we won't live with the customers i have to deal with.

Danzig · #79 02-22-2009, 08:12 AM

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a Very sudden twist to my post. we ARE moving in 6 weeks. we are only going four blocks but we are moving into a gated community and onto the publicly-traded electric company's service. i work for the City owned electric company. now we won't live with the customers i have to deal with.

good for you! it always kills me when people get offended such as in your case-but if they'd just pay their damn bill, they wouldn't have YOU to blame for their troubles. hope you like it there.

Danzig · #80 02-22-2009, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by golfer

By the way, Bob, I was RIGHT

... this has led to interesting and diverse discussion...

http://rense.com/general85/pcrg.htm

Some highlights from the article:

"Gun violence" is not something committed by the vast majority of gun owners. "Gun violence" is the preserve of the criminal elements, such as gangs fighting over drug turf. Criminals are already prohibited from owning guns, but criminals pay no more attention to this law than they do to laws against robbery, rape, and murder. Why do Democrats think that disarming law-abiding citizens will disarm outlaws?

So much for gun bans. They only disarm the law-abiding and leave them defenseless."

Please feel free to replace the word Democrats with Politicians.

this is pulled from the article, and is an EXCELLENT point!!:

The progressive canard is that the Second Amendment, unlike the rest of the amendments to the Constitution, is not a constitutional right for citizens. Rather it is a right for a defunct organization known as the militia. Why in the world would the Founding Fathers, when laying out the rights of individuals, confound the point by sticking in among individual rights a right for a military organization?