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Old 06-06-2009, 10:54 AM
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many parents w/gay children don't accept it
How many or % is many?

Just from my personal acquaintances and friends it would be few, very few...
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Old 06-07-2009, 10:58 AM
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How many or % is many?

Just from my personal acquaintances and friends it would be few, very few...
I'd say that's an impossible question to answer but IMO many of those who are still 'in the closet' are there because of family concerns rather than for professional reasons. It also seems to be a cultural thing with Blacks and Mexican/Puerto Rican's being the least accepting of such. Something to do with Machismoism?
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Old 06-08-2009, 04:52 PM
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I'd say that's an impossible question to answer but IMO many of those who are still 'in the closet' are there because of family concerns rather than for professional reasons. It also seems to be a cultural thing with Blacks and Mexican/Puerto Rican's being the least accepting of such. Something to do with Machismoism?
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How many or % is many?

Just from my personal acquaintances and friends it would be few, very few...
From my experience, it'd be much higher than "very few."

I am positive the percentage of closeted folks goes down in direct correlation to the point where financial independance goes up, but assuming that "very few" people stay in the closet or are met with disapproval due to family concerns is an incredibly naive view of how the coming out process generally works and the well-founded concerns lots of people have about it.

From my experience, which I'd be fair to consider rather extensive, the percentage of people who come out to parental disapproval is much higher than you're making it sound like it is.

It's obviously getting better as time goes by, and that's nothing but a good thing, but we're nowhere near the point where that % is anything close to what it should be.
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Old 06-08-2009, 08:21 PM
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From my experience, it'd be much higher than "very few."

I am positive the percentage of closeted folks goes down in direct correlation to the point where financial independance goes up, but assuming that "very few" people stay in the closet or are met with disapproval due to family concerns is an incredibly naive view of how the coming out process generally works and the well-founded concerns lots of people have about it.

From my experience, which I'd be fair to consider rather extensive, the percentage of people who come out to parental disapproval is much higher than you're making it sound like it is.

It's obviously getting better as time goes by, and that's nothing but a good thing, but we're nowhere near the point where that % is anything close to what it should be.


we actually had a guy at work (Puerto Rican) who believed he could beat his brother straight. It didn't work.
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we actually had a guy at work (Puerto Rican) who believed he could beat his brother straight. It didn't work.
i thought you were supposed to pray the gay away-that's what sarah palin said...
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Old 06-08-2009, 09:07 PM
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i thought you were supposed to pray the gay away-that's what sarah palin said...
if she did say that I agree

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Old 06-08-2009, 09:13 PM
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But to be fair I think it was her church that stated that.

If that is the case why woudn't Obama be at fault for the racist views of his pastor and church?

Hopefully (there's that word again) she has been proud of her country more than once as an adult which. sadly can't be said about Michelle O'B as stated by her in her own words not her church and or pastor......
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Old 06-09-2009, 07:19 AM
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From my experience, it'd be much higher than "very few."

I am positive the percentage of closeted folks goes down in direct correlation to the point where financial independance goes up, but assuming that "very few" people stay in the closet or are met with disapproval due to family concerns is an incredibly naive view of how the coming out process generally works and the well-founded concerns lots of people have about it.

From my experience, which I'd be fair to consider rather extensive, the percentage of people who come out to parental disapproval is much higher than you're making it sound like it is.

It's obviously getting better as time goes by, and that's nothing but a good thing, but we're nowhere near the point where that % is anything close to what it should be.
my parents think that by ignoring it, refusing to talk about it, refusing to meet any of my past gf's, and telling me that one day maybe I'll go with a guy again (everytime I tell them about a guy friend that I like (as a friend) they get excited that maybe I'll get with him. My uncle always tells me to try sleeping with a guy again, but he's generally okay cause we check out girls together... he just wants me to be with a man.

My parents feel by having the attitude that I described above, that means they are being very supportive of my lifestyle "choice". My Dad also told me to never have a partner, and never tell ANYONE I'm gay. My mom told me she's real against gay couples ever having kids. Well maybe one day she doesnt have to meet her grandchild then (I really want kids).

Pgardn, that is supposed to be a supportive and accepting relationship in their eyes! Maybe if they dont talk about it or think about it it will go away!
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Old 06-09-2009, 07:23 AM
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a shame the court has taken the cowardly way out on this one. so much for checks and balances.
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