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Old 10-07-2009, 09:44 PM
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FTFY

It was one of the most interesting ever to me.

A horse off of back to back beats at Sunland Park going all Street Sense on a bunch of seemingly superior to him bums.

By the way, use those fancy overhead shots to compare the rides between Borel and that Chris Rosier guy on Summer Bird. I don't think Rosier will ever see any triple crown action again.

Obviously I'd only rate the great Borel CD ride MTB got as the distant #3 reason why he won. Safe to say the tremendously sub-par field and the extreme change of running style tactics were a long way 1st and 2nd.
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Old 10-07-2009, 10:29 PM
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It was one of the most interesting ever to me.

A horse off of back to back beats at Sunland Park going all Street Sense on a bunch of seemingly superior to him bums.

By the way, use those fancy overhead shots to compare the rides between Borel and that Chris Rosier guy on Summer Bird. I don't think Rosier will ever see any triple crown action again.

Obviously I'd only rate the great Borel CD ride MTB got as the distant #3 reason why he won. Safe to say the tremendously sub-par field and the extreme change of running style tactics were a long way 1st and 2nd.
Hah. I know the real reason you found that interesting.

That race freakin blew.
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Old 10-07-2009, 10:36 PM
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the field:

$350,000 Goodwood Stakes (gr. I, Race 7, 3:30 p.m.), 3 & Up, 1 1/8 Miles (All Weather)
PP. Horse, Jockey, Weight, Trainer
1. Chocolate Candy (KY), V Espinoza, 121, J Hollendorfer
2. Tiago (KY), M E Smith, 124, J A Shirreffs
3. Richard's Kid (MD), A O Solis, 124, B Baffert
4. Colonel John (KY), G K Gomez, 124, E G Harty
5. Tres Borrachos (KY), J Talamo, 124, C B Greely
6. Monzante (KY), J Rosario, 124, M R Mitchell
7. Parading (KY), R Bejarano, 124, C R McGaughey III
8. Gitano Hernando (GB), K Fallon, 121, M Botti
9. Informed (KY), M C Baze, 124, D F O'Neill
10. Mine That Bird (KY), C H Borel, 121, B L Woolley, Jr


i wonder which tres borrachos will show up.....when that horse is at his best, he wins races like these. i could see him winning this. then there's informed.

i'm going with:

10. Mine That Bird (KY), C H Borel, 121, B L Woolley, Jr
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Old 10-07-2009, 10:45 PM
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For those of you that bet on that crap surface; is there anything to suggest that Gitano Hernando is any worse than Muhannak was? and is there anything to suggest the rest of the synthetic slowpokes in this race are any slower than the synthetic slowpokes in the Marathon last year? Seems like anytime you have a crappy Euro that might go off at long odds on the fake tires you have to bet it.
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Old 10-07-2009, 11:04 PM
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Ive always wondered how fast horses ran before there were clocks.....
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Old 10-07-2009, 11:08 PM
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Ive always wondered how fast horses ran before there were clocks.....
Slow. They used sun dials.
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Old 10-07-2009, 11:27 PM
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Pedulums is what Im thinking , I can just see a trainer watching the pendulum and cussing the work rider lol.
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Old 10-07-2009, 11:41 PM
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Pedulums is what Im thinking , I can just see a trainer watching the pendulum and cussing the work rider lol.
Who's your cat in the fight? If someone wants to give me a reason why the American horses will crush the Euro then please do so. If not then let's just discuss what the best timing mechanism is.
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Old 10-08-2009, 12:09 AM
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Who's your cat in the fight? If someone wants to give me a reason why the American horses will crush the Euro then please do so. If not then let's just discuss what the best timing mechanism is.
I dont like the Euros this year
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Old 10-08-2009, 12:16 AM
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I dont like the Euros this year
Why not? Are they crappy or does Tiago and Richard's Kid excite you that much.
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Old 10-08-2009, 12:18 AM
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Why not? Are they crappy or does Tiago and Richard's Kid excite you that much.
If this was Mastercraftsman and Rip Van Winkle, that would be different. These Euros aren't indicative of the top talent from over there.
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Old 10-08-2009, 12:21 AM
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Why not? Are they crappy or does Tiago and Richard's Kid excite you that much.
Not enough medication
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Old 10-08-2009, 12:23 AM
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If this was Mastercraftsman and Rip Van Winkle, that would be different. These Euros aren't indicative of the top talent from over there.
So you are saying that the Euros coming over that Sea the Stars has beat are a bunch of claimers that will be exposed as such when Sea the Stars is beat?
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Old 10-08-2009, 12:37 AM
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So you are saying that the Euros coming over that Sea the Stars has beat are a bunch of claimers that will be exposed as such when Sea the Stars is beat?
Not sure where you get that from. I think Rip Van Winkle should be favored for the Classic. I think Fame and Glory and Conduit should be the two favorites for the Turf. Mastercraftsman deserves a good look. The top Europeans are good. I don't think any Euros in the Goodwood are that good though.
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Old 10-08-2009, 12:43 AM
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Not sure where you get that from. I think Rip Van Winkle should be favored for the Classic. I think Fame and Glory and Conduit should be the two favorites for the Turf. Mastercraftsman deserves a good look. The top Europeans are good. I don't think any Euros in the Goodwood are that good though.
Where does Youmzain belong?
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Old 10-08-2009, 12:48 AM
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Where does Youmzain belong?
I'd rate him behind Fame and Glory and Conduit but would make him third choice in the Turf. Maybe fourth behind the filly from over there.
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Where does Youmzain belong?
2nd
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Old 10-08-2009, 01:37 AM
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If he's anything like he used to be I'd say Col John looms large here. And yes, MTB could make a cold exacta.
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Old 10-08-2009, 02:17 AM
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If he's anywhere near as slow as he used to be I'd say Col John is as overrated as ever. And yes, MTB could make a cold exacta.

FTFY!

Man, I hate being old English teacher like around here, but I felt your word usage really needed to be graded and then corrected.
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I think he sucks, but will run well.
Nothing like hedging your bets. Do you declare victory if he runs well or up the track ?
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