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Old 04-26-2010, 11:47 AM
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This is seriously the most tired complaint in all of racing.
Actually, it's not. The networks have typically owned the rights to the Woodford and Manhattan but elected not to show them, resulting in a TV blackout for the races. If they aren't going to show them, don't buy the rights to the races and let someone else air them.
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Old 04-26-2010, 01:18 PM
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Actually, it's not. The networks have typically owned the rights to the Woodford and Manhattan but elected not to show them, resulting in a TV blackout for the races. If they aren't going to show them, don't buy the rights to the races and let someone else air them.
The networks dont show them because they don't want casual fans to tune out as soon as the Woodford and Manhattan are over because they think they just watched the Derby or Belmont. And those fluff pieces they show instead keep people watching. And they don't let other networks show the races becasue they want all the viewers watchng their broadcast.
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Old 04-26-2010, 01:44 PM
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The networks dont show them because they don't want casual fans to tune out as soon as the Woodford and Manhattan are over because they think they just watched the Derby or Belmont. And those fluff pieces they show instead keep people watching. And they don't let other networks show the races becasue they want all the viewers watchng their broadcast.
Yep. Nothing in that explanation to complain about.

Back in line, drones!
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Old 04-28-2010, 01:51 PM
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Yep. Nothing in that explanation to complain about.

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Old 04-26-2010, 01:47 PM
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The networks dont show them because they don't want casual fans to tune out as soon as the Woodford and Manhattan are over because they think they just watched the Derby or Belmont. And those fluff pieces they show instead keep people watching. And they don't let other networks show the races becasue they want all the viewers watchng their broadcast.

And how does this weak explanation, even if correct, make the complaint "tired"? Damn those racing fans/bettors who actually want to watch two of the typically six most important grass races contested in North America on an annual basis.
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Old 04-26-2010, 01:54 PM
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The networks dont show them because they don't want casual fans to tune out as soon as the Woodford and Manhattan are over because they think they just watched the Derby or Belmont. And those fluff pieces they show instead keep people watching. And they don't let other networks show the races becasue they want all the viewers watchng their broadcast.
That explaination does sound correct. It fits what the suits at the networks want to do.

But it still sucks.
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Old 04-26-2010, 02:01 PM
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Yeah, it's sort of like an Irish Pub telling their regulars that they can't have beer between 4:00 and 5:00 PM on St. Patrick's Day so they can accomodate the scores of college kids that are there for one day and never come back.

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Old 04-26-2010, 02:06 PM
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Most horseplayers and hardcore fans are at the track or the OTB anyway.
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Old 04-26-2010, 02:21 PM
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Last year HRTV went ahead and showed the Woodford Reserve live, hopefully they do this year as well.
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Old 04-28-2010, 01:08 PM
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Most horseplayers and hardcore fans are at the track or the OTB anyway.
Guess you don't know the facts to good.
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Old 04-28-2010, 04:20 PM
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Most horseplayers and hardcore fans are at the track or the OTB anyway.
Beg to differ. Many cruise in make their bets and go home and watch. Too many people, partiers, lines at the windows etc etc..

Most of the regular hard core guys at my old hang out in Ohio fit that mold.
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Old 04-28-2010, 04:24 PM
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Beg to differ. Many cruise in make their bets and go home and watch. Too many people, partiers, lines at the windows etc etc..

Most of the regular hard core guys at my old hang out in Ohio fit that mold.
Thats what I do-used to spend all day at track but now just too many damn people. I go in at 10 make my bets and watch at home
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Old 04-26-2010, 02:35 PM
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The networks dont show them because they don't want casual fans to tune out as soon as the Woodford and Manhattan are over because they think they just watched the Derby or Belmont. And those fluff pieces they show instead keep people watching. And they don't let other networks show the races becasue they want all the viewers watchng their broadcast.
Thats a lame excuse because they show other races on the Derby card. The casual fans wouldn't know th Humana Distaff from the KY Derby.
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Old 04-26-2010, 02:40 PM
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Thats a lame excuse because they show other races on the Derby card. The casual fans wouldn't know th Humana Distaff from the KY Derby.
Who is "they"?
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If Justin's explanation is the real reason, then I think the networks should still show the Woodford. Anyone who watches a grass race and thinks it's the Kentucky Derby doesn't deserve to watch the Derby anyway.
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Who is "they"?
I believe the "networks"
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Old 04-26-2010, 06:11 PM
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I'm thinkin that not too many completely clueless fans actually watch unless they are watching with somone who can at least advise them which race is actually the Derby.
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Old 04-26-2010, 06:48 PM
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I believe the "networks"
Well the "network" in question does NOT show any of the undercard races.
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Old 04-26-2010, 07:59 PM
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Well the "network" in question does NOT show any of the undercard races.
I guess "that" is the problem then......and they don't care!
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1 Lookin at Lucky (Baffert/Gomez) Blinkers OFF 3-1
2 Ice Box (Zito/Lezcano) 10-1
3 Noble's Promise (McPeek/Martinez) 12-1
4 Super Saver (Pletcher/Borel) 15-1
5 Line of David (Sadler/Bejarano) 30-1
6 Stately Victor (Maker/Garcia) 30-1
7 American Lion (Harty/Flores) 30-1
8 Dean's Kitten (Maker/Albarado) 50-1
9 Make Music for Me (Barba/Rosario) 50-1
10 Paddy O'Prado (Romans/Desormeaux) 20-1
11 Devil May Care (Pletcher/Velazquez) Blinkers ON 10-1
12 Conveyance (Baffert/Garcia) 12-1
13 Jackson Bend (Zito/Smith) 15-1
14 Mission Impazible (Pletcher/Maragh) 20-1
15 Discreetly Mine (Pletcher/Castellano) 30-1
16 Awesome Act (Noseda/Leparoux) 10-1
17 Dublin (Lukas/Thompson) 12-1
18 Backtalk (Amoss/Mena) 50-1
19 Homeboykris (Dutrow/Dominguez) 50-1
20 Sidney's Candy (Sadler/Talamo) 5-1

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