Discreet Cat earns 115 Beyer Speed Figure

[bogeydaman]

Originally Posted by pgardn

And this of course is exactly what many people would like to see happen. Unchallenged then off to the shed unblemished.

Not sure who these "people" you are referring to, but they are certainly not the majority of the board / fans. I don't get a chance to read all of the posts on this board, but I surely have not seen any that says I can't wait till xxxx horse retires??? Everything I read is about the desire for these horses to keep running?

Now if you are referring to the owners and those that would want to purchase his offspring then I agree. This horse is probably worth 25X (there are others on the board that would know this number better than me) its value in the shed than racing. Who can blame them? I don't if I was in their shoes (then again money is no object for them).

Originally Posted by bogeydaman

Not sure who these "people" you are referring to, but they are certainly not the majority of the board / fans. I don't get a chance to read all of the posts on this board, but I surely have not seen any that says I can't wait till xxxx horse retires??? Everything I read is about the desire for these horses to keep running?

Now if you are referring to the owners and those that would want to purchase his offspring then I agree. This horse is probably worth 25X (there are others on the board that would know this number better than me) its value in the shed than racing. Who can blame them? I don't if I was in their shoes (then again money is no object for them).

If the horse retires undefeated then one might be able to claim they got to see Colin or Personal Ensign. I like to see horses have to work for some of their victories. Not the horses fault though. I think the BCC will be a suprise for this horse. I get the field, who takes Bernardini in the BCC?

[bogeydaman]

Originally Posted by pgardn

If the horse retires undefeated then one might be able to claim they got to see Colin or Personal Ensign. I like to see horses have to work for some of their victories. Not the horses fault though. I think the BCC will be a suprise for this horse. I get the field, who takes Bernardini in the BCC?

He is not undefeated. He lost his 1st race.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by bogeydaman

He is not undefeated. He lost his 1st race.

Yep, which means that he could lose again.

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Yep, which means that he could lose again.

We are all hoping that he doesn't lose this one...This one is much more important.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

We are all hoping that he doesn't lose this one...This one is much more important.

Call me weird, but I almost hope he does. I just haven't liked him much since the get-go. I'm sorry.

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Call me weird, but I almost hope he does. I just haven't liked him much since the get-go. I'm sorry.

Cajun, for some stupid reason, I thought that you all were talking about Barbaro, not Bernardini. That was my mistake.

We were talking about Barbaro earlier on this thread as well...

Originally Posted by bogeydaman

He is not undefeated. He lost his 1st race.

Corrected. Thanks.

Cunningham and I do not see eye to eye on strides. Again. One never knows how a horse will HOLD form when challenged while TIRED.

Example. If we had a car dressed as a horse that challenged Secretariat the whole way in the Belmont I do not think he would have had the same time. Secretariat was running so smoothly, very relaxed, because the horse was not challenged. I take nothing away from that run because the horse was extraordinarily fast. But he would not have run that smoothly, imo, if he had horses surrounding him down the stretch. Very few thoroughbreds maintain the same stride when tired and challenged, very few. So I wish to see him challenged and run with the same stride. Tiznow my arse.