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Old 07-07-2010, 02:03 PM
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Default 7/10 (DEL): Delaware Oaks (G3), Barbaro S., Sussex S.

7th (3:57) Barbaro S.

1 1/16 Miles | Open | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $100,000

1 Latigo Shore Rose J 116 L
2 Broke by Noon Oro E 116 L
3 Colizeo Jara F 122 LA
4 Trickmeister Saez G 116 LA
5 Wildcat Lake Carmouche K 118 LA
6 Regal Warrior Napravnik A R 116 LA
7 Not Abroad Petro N J 116 LA
8 Laus Deo Rocco J S Jr 120 L



9th (4:51) Delaware Oaks (G2)

1 1/16 Miles | Fillies | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $250,000

1 Derwin's Star Valdivia J Jr 116 LA
2 No Such Word Thompson T J 120 LA
3 Calypso Queen Cintron A 116 LA
4 Worship the Moon Shepherd J 116 LA
5 Blind Luck Rosario J 122 LA
6 Listen In Rocco J S Jr 116 L
7 Havre de Grace Rose J 116 L



10th (5:18) Sussex S.

1 1/16 Miles (Turf) | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $100,000

1 Pick Six Thompson T J 117 LA
2 Nownownow Rosario J 117 Blk-On L
3 Bullsbay Bravo J 117 LA
4 Tybalt Napravnik A R 119 LA
5 Pickapocket Hernandez B J Jr 121 LA
6 Leading On Shepherd J 117 Blk-On L
7 Nicanor Valdivia J Jr 119 LA
8 Minnie Punt Saez G 123 L
9 Saco River Flores J L 117 LA
10 Vanquisher Rose J 117 LA
11 Pleasant Strike Jara F 117 LA

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Old 07-07-2010, 02:06 PM
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Some really interesting stakes races this weekend.

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Old 07-07-2010, 02:58 PM
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Surpised that Acting Happy isn't in the Delaware Oaks. Two months since the Black Eye Susan score, just about right for today's super trainer.

Maybe she's playing the Homeboykris role for the Alabama.
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Old 07-07-2010, 03:01 PM
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Surpised that Acting Happy isn't in the Delaware Oaks. Two months since the Black Eye Susan score, just about right for today's super trainer.

Maybe she's playing the Homeboykris role for the Alabama.
Alabama is the plan.

Funny how his claimers only need 24 hours rest, but Stakes horses need 6 weeks or more.
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Old 07-07-2010, 03:02 PM
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Alabama is the plan.

Funny how his claimers only need 24 hours rest, but Stakes horses need 6 weeks or more.
I thought he said he was running her in the CCA Oaks because he thinks she'd love 10fs.

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Old 07-07-2010, 03:39 PM
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I thought he said he was running her in the CCA Oaks because he thinks she'd love 10fs.

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He probably realized it was only 9f this year, so opted to wait for the Alabama.

'Cuz any race not at 10f in the interim will derail his designs on the "long term goal".

Talk about a double whammy. You got about 4 or 5 3yo filly stakes in the span of a little more than a month (ie Mother Goose, Delaware Oaks, CCA Oaks, Monmouth Oaks) so that the few top class horses (I wouldn't even put Acting Happy in that category at this point) can avoid each other. Then you have these supertrainers with their "long range plans" that involve staying in the barn and working "up to the race".

Useless.

Whoever suggested that the Eclipse Awards should be doled out based on a points system, is on the right track. In fact, there should also be some sort of $1 million bonus for each division at the end of the year. In fact, make the bonuses equivalent to the purses for each respective BC race.

Then every weekend might have a "World Thoroughbred Championship" race.
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Old 07-07-2010, 04:53 PM
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He probably realized it was only 9f this year, so opted to wait for the Alabama.

'Cuz any race not at 10f in the interim will derail his designs on the "long term goal".

Talk about a double whammy. You got about 4 or 5 3yo filly stakes in the span of a little more than a month (ie Mother Goose, Delaware Oaks, CCA Oaks, Monmouth Oaks) so that the few top class horses (I wouldn't even put Acting Happy in that category at this point) can avoid each other. Then you have these supertrainers with their "long range plans" that involve staying in the barn and working "up to the race".

Useless.

Whoever suggested that the Eclipse Awards should be doled out based on a points system, is on the right track. In fact, there should also be some sort of $1 million bonus for each division at the end of the year. In fact, make the bonuses equivalent to the purses for each respective BC race.

Then every weekend might have a "World Thoroughbred Championship" race.
This is a great idea.
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Old 07-08-2010, 07:42 AM
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Gotta love the fact that the Barbaro drew 8 horses with a $100k purse going 1 1/16 miles and on the same day, the Long Branch at Monmouth has a field of 6 for $175k at the same distance...both restricted to 3YO.

What is even better? A whopping 11 horses have been entered between the two races, 3 of the Long Branchers are entered in the Barbaro.

At what point will some of these tracks get together, cut these stakes schedules, and develop some meaningful approach to share the love?
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Old 07-08-2010, 08:32 AM
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it's an interesting problem, race tracks and their scheduling. they are all supposed to be in this together, yet at the same time, they are competitors. however, the overall strengthening of the sport would help the tracks-but they still insist on poaching each other. they need to get together more, and try to come up with logical ways to handle themselves, and each other.
hell, they're like the irish! they have no one to fight, so they fight each other...and then wonder why the outcome isn't helpful to their long-term survival.
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Old 07-08-2010, 09:30 AM
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Gotta love the fact that the Barbaro drew 8 horses with a $100k purse going 1 1/16 miles and on the same day, the Long Branch at Monmouth has a field of 6 for $175k at the same distance...both restricted to 3YO.

What is even better? A whopping 11 horses have been entered between the two races, 3 of the Long Branchers are entered in the Barbaro.

At what point will some of these tracks get together, cut these stakes schedules, and develop some meaningful approach to share the love?
The VA Derby only has 5 so far for next weekend, the purse as you know is $600K. The Secretariat, at Arlington, is the same day, albeit for a much smaller purse, but both will be "sharing" the same horse pool.
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Old 07-08-2010, 11:57 PM
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I thought he said he was running her in the CCA Oaks because he thinks she'd love 10fs.

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CCAO is at 9f now.
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Old 07-09-2010, 01:57 AM
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it's an interesting problem, race tracks and their scheduling. they are all supposed to be in this together, yet at the same time, they are competitors. however, the overall strengthening of the sport would help the tracks-but they still insist on poaching each other. they need to get together more, and try to come up with logical ways to handle themselves, and each other.
hell, they're like the irish! they have no one to fight, so they fight each other...and then wonder why the outcome isn't helpful to their long-term survival.
This was the big beef I had with the drama in Florida. The 'every track is an island' philosophy, out to eat or be eaten in some cases, willfully self-involved in others. If they actually cared about the sport, they would be trying to support one another, but their priorities involve focusing inward. That kinda of behavior actually hurts them in the long run, but do they see it? Nope. Could handle race scheduling better so that the horse pool is used more efficiently, but they won't.
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Old 07-09-2010, 06:03 AM
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The VA Derby only has 5 so far for next weekend, the purse as you know is $600K. The Secretariat, at Arlington, is the same day, albeit for a much smaller purse, but both will be "sharing" the same horse pool.
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Old 07-10-2010, 05:43 PM
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Nicanor 3rd by a hair to Bullsbay in 2nd. Pickapocket won. It came off the turf, 4 horse field.

http://www.delawarepark.com/race_day_audio.php You can get the replay here if you sign up.
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