Beyer blasting NY racing on ATR - Page 4

philcski · #61 07-10-2010, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss

You can pretend you aren't but I don't need to put the words into your mouth. Take a look at what you say. Everything is a thinly veiled criticism. Saying "I'm a NY guy" before a slam doesn't change what you are really saying.

Sure. Keep fishing for a confrontation. Maybe they'll bite over at PA this afternoon.

jms62 · #62 07-10-2010, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss

You can pretend you aren't but I don't need to put the words into your mouth. Take a look at what you say. Everything is a thinly veiled criticism. Saying "I'm a NY guy" before a slam doesn't change what you are really saying.

He is a reverse Byk. But of course I am the only person in the entire world that has that opinion per Steve.

Dahoss · #63 07-10-2010, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski

Sure. Keep fishing for a confrontation. Maybe they'll bite over at PA this afternoon.

That's pretty hypocritical isn't it?

philcski · #64 07-10-2010, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss

That's pretty hypocritical isn't it?

Why?

Dahoss · #65 07-10-2010, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski

Why?

Because that is what your modus operandi has been lately.

philcski · #66 07-10-2010, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss

Because that is what your modus operandi has been lately.

Where... and how?

jms62 · #67 07-10-2010, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski

Where... and how?

JMHO Phil is one of the most level headed posters on this board.

10 pnt move up · #68 07-10-2010, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

based on stall apps, it didn't sound like saratoga was having a hard time drawing horses.

like they ever will, they ship in all over, it does provide an illusion though that there is a thriving horse population to draw from.

freddymo · #69 07-10-2010, 06:11 PM

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like they ever will, they ship in all over, it does provide an illusion though that there is a thriving horse population to draw from.

Isnt Rachel in one of those precious SPA stall's? I hear see loves TRAINING at SPA lol

Dahoss · #70 07-10-2010, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jms62

JMHO Phil is one of the most level headed posters on this board.

Good to know, thanks.

cmorioles · #71 07-10-2010, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo

Isnt Rachel in one of those precious SPA stall's? I hear see loves TRAINING at SPA lol

You don't think she is running at the meet?

freddymo · #72 07-11-2010, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by cmorioles

You don't think she is running at the meet?

I don't.. I think MP will get her back for another BC prep.. They want to run every 5 weeks with her so her next start would be the last weekend in Aug. Monmouth can make the Molly Pitcher purse 750k and get her to run on the weekend after her 7/24 prep. Apparently Jess is playing by his on rules and MP seems to be his best partner in crime.

In a way things couldnt have turned out worse for racing with Zenyatta and Rachel NOT retiring. You had a great opportunity to promote the sport and truly get people pumped again. Instead we will have potentially a 1 race show down if either make it CD. Shame

Danzig · #73 07-11-2010, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by freddymo

I don't.. I think MP will get her back for another BC prep.. They want to run every 5 weeks with her so her next start would be the last weekend in Aug. Monmouth can make the Molly Pitcher purse 750k and get her to run on the weekend after her 7/24 prep. Apparently Jess is playing by his on rules and MP seems to be his best partner in crime.

In a way things couldnt have turned out worse for racing with Zenyatta and Rachel NOT retiring. You had a great opportunity to promote the sport and truly get people pumped again. Instead we will have potentially a 1 race show down if either make it CD. Shame

you're probably dead right on that thought. jess choosing the ungraded race now, and they make it worth his while later. monmouth can also attempt to get their ungraded race graded next year when they go back and look at the field...

both rachel and zenyatta are accomplishing nothing this year, and doing nothing for racing. they may as well have retired them for all they're doing with them this year. what a waste.

Revidere · #74 07-11-2010, 08:55 PM

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IMO Steve has tried very hard to protect the NYRA product, while not overly supporting the MP changes. We all (save Fatty) hope that NYRA's product returns to be the best betting opportunity in America but Fri-Sunday it isn't. MP is a better meet and it has attracted very good races to bet.

That's a good point Freddy. I'm not sure you'll see the top jocks again if they have a second year Elite Meet, however. I was able to chat with Garret Gomez yesterday and he indicated that while he loves the area, he's going to Saratoga. The meet was not what he expected in terms of attracting good horses. He said the purses are great but he's spending more time in the jocks room than riding.

cmorioles · #75 07-11-2010, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo

I don't.. I think MP will get her back for another BC prep.. They want to run every 5 weeks with her so her next start would be the last weekend in Aug. Monmouth can make the Molly Pitcher purse 750k and get her to run on the weekend after her 7/24 prep. Apparently Jess is playing by his on rules and MP seems to be his best partner in crime.

In a way things couldnt have turned out worse for racing with Zenyatta and Rachel NOT retiring. You had a great opportunity to promote the sport and truly get people pumped again. Instead we will have potentially a 1 race show down if either make it CD. Shame

I think she is a lock to run in the Personal Ensign if she runs well at Monmouth. Who is there to avoid, even at 10f?