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Old 08-15-2010, 11:23 AM
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He actually has a better ROI outside of Florida in the last five years than he does in Florida, by about $0.19, and it's a positive ROI.
I always wondered about that, if he is Calder based, would Gulfstream count as a shipper's stat? My observations are his horses don't run as well out of South Florida as they would elsewhere. I can think of a couple of examples, Jessica is Back and It's A Bird as the another. Regardless I will take that stat and factor it in, I don't remember him ever shipping out west and winning anything that can be termed as a substantial score though.
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Old 08-15-2010, 11:31 AM
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I always wondered about that, if he is Calder based, would Gulfstream count as a shipper's stat? My observations are his horses don't run as well out of South Florida as they would elsewhere. I can think of a couple of examples, Jessica is Back and It's A Bird as the another. Regardless I will take that stat and factor it in, I don't remember him ever shipping out west and winning anything that can be termed as a substantial score though.
If we're talking about the last five years, you probably can't recall him shipping to SoCal and winning anything "substantial" because he's 0-for-4, period.

I think of him mostly for South Florida as well, but weird that the stats don't back that up and that he's actually more profitable everywhere else combined than he is in Florida.
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Old 08-15-2010, 11:55 AM
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If we're talking about the last five years, you probably can't recall him shipping to SoCal and winning anything "substantial" because he's 0-for-4, period.

I think of him mostly for South Florida as well, but weird that the stats don't back that up and that he's actually more profitable everywhere else combined than he is in Florida.
The $ question is will he be 0-5 today or will it suddenly be a respectable 20% when he does ships out west? Regardless I like Turning Top if she is a price, what about Bart Evans shipping stats? + 2.41 in his last 43 starts.
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Old 08-15-2010, 07:49 PM
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Old 08-16-2010, 01:28 PM
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Good, Bad, and the Ugly

The Good - Wasted Tears (obvious)
The Bad - Mike Smith's ride on Gotta Have Her
The Ugly - Gozzip Girl
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