Admiral Alex in the Travers - Page 6

miraja2 · #**101** 08-26-2010, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Coach, as much as I have been against Ice Box, he is the one Im tossing Im most worried about. The pace could be swift and he might be running late.

He looks as if he might be one of those off-the-pace horses whose performance is relatively easy to predict. If you look at his last four races, they went fast early in the first two and he won one and finished a strong second in the other. The next two they didn't go fast early and he didn't do anything. That's obviously not surprising, given his running style, but he looks like he might be even more one-dimensional than many. Given the probable pace scenario here if there aren't any scratches, and a Zito off-the-pace exacta looks very possible to me.

randallscott35 · #**102** 08-26-2010, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Yeah changing my mind and throwing him out and watching Leparoux move him wide down the stretch to a victory?

The Belmont there was no excuse. Last race it's well documented that Lezcano has been on another planet. Probably one of those new planets NASA is going to announce tomorrow. So throwing the last out and going back to Fla. Derby and Ky Derby if there is a slight improvement he has as good a shot as any.

And the price should be good.

Not what I meant. The story ends with Lezcano winning the Travers.

#**103** 08-26-2010, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35

Not what I meant. The story ends with Lezcano winning the Travers.

He could be on Pegasus and f.uck it up. He's that bad.

randallscott35 · #**104** 08-26-2010, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants

He could be on Pegasus and f.uck it up. He's that bad.

It is in the stars.

parsixfarms · #**105** 08-26-2010, 10:13 AM

Not that I think Admiral Alex is a probable winner of the Travers, but I don't recall in recent times a horse winning his debut in a two-turn dirt race and earning a higher figure than his 87. Am I forgetting someone?

Port Conway Lane · #**106** 08-26-2010, 10:16 AM

Czaravich ?

randallscott35 · #**107** 08-26-2010, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by parsixfarms

Not that I think Admiral Alex is a probable winner of the Travers, but I don't recall in recent times a horse winning his debut in a two-turn dirt race and earning a higher figure than his 87. Am I forgetting someone?

Which signifies very little. Most horses don't run two turns on dirt to start their career therefore we'll never know....Affirmatif opened with a two turn 100 on the grass last spring.

RockHardTen1985 · #**108** 08-26-2010, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35

Not what I meant. The story ends with Lezcano winning the Travers.

Fly Down started of as one of my mains, I just dont trust Lezcano and have not decided yet what to do with him.

parsixfarms · #**109** 08-26-2010, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35

Which signifies very little. Most horses don't run two turns on dirt to start their career therefore we'll never know....Affirmatif opened with a two turn 100 on the grass last spring.

I was aware of Affirmatif, and I'm also aware that it's not common for a horse to debut going two turns on dirt; that's why I posed the question that I did. Take any answer for what you think it's worth.

The Indomitable DrugS · #**110** 08-26-2010, 12:15 PM

Tapit ran a 90 Beyer when he won his debut at Delaware going two turns on dirt as a 2yo.

The Indomitable DrugS · #**111** 08-26-2010, 12:18 PM

Tale of the Cat won his debut by double digits with a 95 going 1 mile and 70 yards at MTH at age 3. Ran in the Haskell two starts later.

tjfla · #**112** 08-26-2010, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by miraja2

He looks as if he might be one of those off-the-pace horses whose performance is relatively easy to predict. If you look at his last four races, they went fast early in the first two and he won one and finished a strong second in the other. The next two they didn't go fast early and he didn't do anything. That's obviously not surprising, given his running style, but he looks like he might be even more one-dimensional than many. Given the probable pace scenario here if there aren't any scratches, and a Zito off-the-pace exacta looks very possible to me.

To me the pace sets up alot better for Afleet Express more than it does Ice Box. Its gonna be a Belmont type pace as well as distance and we saw who finished 1/2/3 in that

parsixfarms · #**113** 08-26-2010, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Tale of the Cat won his debut by double digits with a 95 going 1 mile and 70 yards at MTH at age 3. Ran in the Haskell two starts later.

Thanks for both. That's a pair of nice horses,

Clip-Clop · #**114** 08-26-2010, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Tale of the Cat won his debut by double digits with a 95 going 1 mile and 70 yards at MTH at age 3. Ran in the Haskell two starts later.

That was a great crop.

miraja2 · #**115** 08-26-2010, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by tjfla

To me the pace sets up alot better for Afleet Express more than it does Ice Box. Its gonna be a Belmont type pace as well as distance and we saw who finished 1/2/3 in that

There is a pretty big difference between a 10f race and a 12f race.