Jets Ravens playalong

[docicu3]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

What are you talking about? When did Sanchez stop competing? Is it his fault Cotchery dropped a wide open pass? Is it his fault Keller gave zero effort on their last offensive play?

He threw a great pass to Keller earlier in the game that would have resulted in a 1st and goal, but Edwards was called for an illegal shift.

Exactly.....his best moment was the least significant of the game. Until he shows he can make a play he has to deal with the reality that his own team calls a game which makes him a non factor.

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by docicu3

Exactly.....his best moment was the least significant of the game. Until he shows he can make a play he has to deal with the reality that his own team calls a game which makes him a non factor.

I'm not saying the play calling was great, but does the Ravens get any credit in this equation? It's not like they were showing replays of open recievers all over the field that Sanchez decided not to throw to. I'm thinking that the Jets expected to run the ball and even though it wasn't working they really never abandoned the gameplan. Also they could call every pass play in the world, if guys don't get open what's a QB supposed to do? Sanchez wasn't good, but this debacle wasn't entirely his fault.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by docicu3

Exactly.....his best moment was the least significant of the game. Until he shows he can make a play he has to deal with the reality that his own team calls a game which makes him a non factor.

What did he do wrong in the last two drives? He made the throws to Cotchery and Keller. They blew it. Not Sanchez.

Did you watch the game?

No one is calling him the next Joe Montana, but come on. All of the sudden he's a half empty type person that has stopped competing because the Jets lost the 1st game of a 16 game season by one point to the Ravens?

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by docicu3

Exactly.....his best moment was the least significant of the game. Until he shows he can make a play he has to deal with the reality that his own team calls a game which makes him a non factor.

Wow, this is so goddamn ridiculous it's scary. He made plenty of plays in the playoffs last year. And it wouldn't have been 'least significant' if Schotty's dumbass chickens-without-heads shifts hadn't cost a penalty.

[dagolfer33]

In my humble and non-partisan opinion, the problem with the Jets is Rex Ryan and the karma he exudes.

[Cannon Shell]

Mark Sanchez was the 28th rated QB in football last year. He is 29th after 1game. I have no idea why anyone thinks he can suddenly develop into a good QB.

It is obvious that opposing defenses are going to stack the line, blitz like crazy and force sanchez to beat them. What puzzled me the most about that game was the jets only giving the ball to greene 5 times. I understand that he had a bad fumble but still. What happens when LT goes down as he invariably will do? The Jets d will win them some games on their own especially if they can put a lot of pressure on the QB. But anyone who watched that offensive performance has to wonder what the hell the game plan was?

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Mark Sanchez was the 28th rated QB in football last year. He is 29th after 1game. I have no idea why anyone thinks he can suddenly develop into a good QB.

It is obvious that opposing defenses are going to stack the line, blitz like crazy and force sanchez to beat them. What puzzled me the most about that game was the jets only giving the ball to greene 5 times. I understand that he had a bad fumble but still. What happens when LT goes down as he invariably will do? The Jets d will win them some games on their own especially if they can put a lot of pressure on the QB. But anyone who watched that offensive performance has to wonder what the hell the game plan was?

the game plan was simple , play not to lose. the left guard cannot pass block , the jets don't trust sanchez to throw the ball down the field yet

greene could turn it around this week though chuck as im not sold on the pat d

this is a must win for the jets this week , with a tough road game in miami next week on the horizon

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

What puzzled me the most about that game was the jets only giving the ball to greene 5 times. I understand that he had a bad fumble but still.

I agree with this. It's one thing to make a point in the preseason by sitting someone after a fumble, but in the regular season in a one-possession game, sitting a guy solely because of a fumble is goddamn moronic. Tomlinson has been surprisingly (not to me) good so far, but Greene is clearly the better of the two and needs 15+ carries every game.

[gales0678]

revis got a hammy issue , joey , it's like the titanic sinking in the harbour here

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by gales0678

revis got a hammy issue , joey , it's like the titanic sinking in the harbour here

you people are like roaches.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

you people are like roaches.

joey , as i said i bleed green , from the sack exchange and walt michales days

there is a lot of gray skies right now , throw in me owning shawn greene in FFL and you can understand borther

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by gales0678

joey , as i said i bleed green , from the sack exchange and walt michales days

there is a lot of gray skies right now , throw in me owning shawn greene in FFL and you can understand borther

They lost by a freakin point to one of the favorites to go to the Super Bowl.
By some miracle and they pulled that game out on the last drive, would you still be so gloom and doom? Probably not.
Why don't you wait for at least week 2 to sound the panic alarm.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

They lost by a freakin point to one of the favorites to go to the Super Bowl.
By some miracle and they pulled that game out on the last drive, would you still be so gloom and doom? Probably not.
Why don't you wait for at least week 2 to sound the panic alarm.

i was talking about the gray's sky's over the skyline right now , geezh

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

They lost by a freakin point to one of the favorites to go to the Super Bowl.
By some miracle and they pulled that game out on the last drive, would you still be so gloom and doom? Probably not.
Why don't you wait for at least week 2 to sound the panic alarm.

Don't bother Matt. You'll never convince guys like him not to be miserable, but your efforts are valiant.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

It is obvious that opposing defenses are going to stack the line, blitz like crazy and force sanchez to beat them.

This is great in theory. The only problem is he won't be facing the Ravens defense every week.

[declansharbor]

Jets offense will hit it's stride when they get Holmes back. He'll alleviate some of the pressures that the other clown a$$ wideouts and a few stiff linemen are putting on Sanchez' shoulders. The thing they need most though, is to face a defense not named Baltimore.

That said, the offensive gameplan for MNF was a joke, at best.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

I agree with this. It's one thing to make a point in the preseason by sitting someone after a fumble, but in the regular season in a one-possession game, sitting a guy solely because of a fumble is goddamn moronic. Tomlinson has been surprisingly (not to me) good so far, but Greene is clearly the better of the two and needs 15+ carries every game.

I know this is a longshot theory but Greene was virtually non-existant on the Hard Knocks show and then gets 5 carries in a game where you knew they would have to run the ball. Is it possible that he has some injury issue and they are keeping it quiet?

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I know this is a longshot theory but Greene was virtually non-existant on the Hard Knocks show and then gets 5 carries in a game where you knew they would have to run the ball. Is it possible that he has some injury issue and they are keeping it quiet?

no

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

This is great in theory. The only problem is he won't be facing the Ravens defense every week.

Sure the Ravens are a tough defense but the Jets were beyond bad on offense. Last season they were ranked 20th in yards per game and 17th in points scored. And the points per is overstated since they scored 37 on Cincy in the laydown game at the end of the season. They lost 2 games they should have won because they couldn't do anything on offense (Buffalo and Atlanta both at home).

When you are playing low scoring games turnovers will hurt even worse and they have to turn Sanchez loose because they cant beat many teams with 71 passing yards. Of course doing so will most likely lead to more turnovers...

Of course I am hoping the Jets continue to lose but everyone seems to forget that they were 11-8 last year and 2 of the wins were laydown games. I have a lot of respect for the defense but they are going to have to put some points on board in addition to shutting down the other team.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by declansharbor

Jets offense will hit it's stride when they get Holmes back. He'll alleviate some of the pressures that the other clown a$$ wideouts and a few stiff linemen are putting on Sanchez' shoulders. The thing they need most though, is to face a defense not named Baltimore.

That said, the offensive gameplan for MNF was a joke, at best.

Santanio Holmes as the savior?

Jets fans are desperate already...