Pretty sure Obama has about a 12% chance of getting re-elected now

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

Trust I didn't make a mistake on who I voted for. Problem was that the person I voted for didn't get the majority.

Have you ever seen the movie Groundhog Day?

[Antitrust32]

dammit I had a whole thing typed out from the pdf they sent us but closed out DT.

Was basically : Heres all the good changes from the health reform bill, HOWEVER, you all have to pay for it and there will be 11% increase in premium.

Also we are eliminating the two better plans because of a Cadillac tax that will come about in 2018.



Really... how can the crap plan I had this year (the 2nd best plan) be considered a Cadillac? Are Cadillacs the new Ford Taurus?

[Riot]

So your employer isn't picking up an 11% increase in premium, they are dumping it on you. Thank them for that.

10-20% annual increases have been the norm the past 5 years or so with insurance companies, that is what has been fueling their record profits. Seems your healthcare provider is still right there. HCR shouldn't make insurance premiums go up more than 1-2%.

And they are dumping a plan because of something that will happen in 2018? Eight years from now?

You're getting screwed, but it's not by Obama.

[Antitrust32]

you really think that United Healthcare is going to be the only insurance company to do this.

One thing I can 100% guarantee is, without health care reform bill, I would have 3 different plans to choose from in 2011.

these changes are 100% fueled by the health bill and Insurance companies wanting to keep the same profits.

Only Obama and Co could think they could make all these changes and Insurance companies would just automatically be okay with making less $. So the cost goes on us.. Just like every other terrible decision the government has made.

& the 11% increase in premium isnt the big deal.

The worthless plan with a huge deductable is the big deal.

This is going to be seen at most all companies... but keep that head buried in the sand.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Riot

So your employer isn't picking up an 11% increase in premium, they are dumping it on you. Thank them for that.

10-20% annual increases have been the norm the past 5 years or so with insurance companies, that is what has been fueling their record profits. Seems your healthcare provider is still right there. HCR shouldn't make insurance premiums go up more than 1-2%.

And they are dumping a plan because of something that will happen in 2018? Eight years from now?

You're getting screwed, but it's not by Obama.

that isnt true for my situation.. 7-8% increases.

And the HCR is making all premiums go up 3%.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Riot

So your employer isn't picking up an 11% increase in premium, they are dumping it on you. Thank them for that.

10-20% annual increases have been the norm the past 5 years or so with insurance companies, that is what has been fueling their record profits. Seems your healthcare provider is still right there. HCR shouldn't make insurance premiums go up more than 1-2%.

And they are dumping a plan because of something that will happen in 2018? Eight years from now?

You're getting screwed, but it's not by Obama.

also you act like 2018 is a lifetime away. it will be here before we know it.

[geeker2]

Uncly

I'm not a Doctor - but I'd be happy to take a look

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

So your employer isn't picking up an 11% increase in premium, they are dumping it on you. Thank them for that.
10-20% annual increases have been the norm the past 5 years or so with insurance companies, that is what has been fueling their record profits. Seems your healthcare provider is still right there. HCR shouldn't make insurance premiums go up more than 1-2%.

And they are dumping a plan because of something that will happen in 2018? Eight years from now?

You're getting screwed, but it's not by Obama.

What is ironic is that this was the exact scenario that was predicted during the victory lap after the bill was passed. The average american will pay more for less, the extra expense will be passed along as it always is. But somehow "big business and corporations" are to blame. The same organizations that are being called on to "create jobs" are supposed to pay greater expense for existing employees with no increase in productivity. Uh ok.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

you really think that United Healthcare is going to be the only insurance company to do this.

One thing I can 100% guarantee is, without health care reform bill, I would have 3 different plans to choose from in 2011.

these changes are 100% fueled by the health bill and Insurance companies wanting to keep the same profits.

Only Obama and Co could think they could make all these changes and Insurance companies would just automatically be okay with making less $. So the cost goes on us.. Just like every other terrible decision the government has made.

& the 11% increase in premium isnt the big deal.

The worthless plan with a huge deductable is the big deal.

This is going to be seen at most all companies... but keep that head buried in the sand.

We were told that the average american would benefit from credit card "reform" too. How's that working out???

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

What is ironic is that this was the exact scenario that was predicted during the victory lap after the bill was passed. The average american will pay more for less, the extra expense will be passed along as it always is. But somehow "big business and corporations" are to blame. The same organizations that are being called on to "create jobs" are supposed to pay greater expense for existing employees with no increase in productivity. Uh ok.

sure we will...someone has to pay for all the extra coverage that is mandated. it's not as tho ins. co's will take a hit because junior gets to stay covered til he's 26 for example. or if you have a pre-existing condition that will raise payouts-who's going to pay for that? we are. just like we always do. govt likes to point fingers at the bad guys-the execs or the big bad corporations. but who ends up footing the bill? the same group of folks.

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Have you ever seen the movie Groundhog Day?

How can someone forget about a movie with Bill Murray in it?