Baseball Playoffs

[jms62]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

I think Bobby Cox = Bill Cowher.

Having looked at the numbers I think you are 100% correct.

[clyde]

Originally Posted by jms62

There you go again Clyde making everything a Math issue

!!OOOOOOOOOO!!



That is because Meth..I mean Mess is an issue everyone would like to have adjucated.

[dalakhani]

baseball and football are apples and oranges. The role of a manager in baseball and a head football coach are completely different and the two really shouldn't be compared.

If the comparison is in the sense of having a team consistently winning but not winning the title, then comparing to Marv Levy isn't really fair either. Bobby Cox won Manager of the year at least once in the 80's, 90's and 2000's. His teams won 14 straight division titles. Levy's bills were good for about 7 years and really good for 4 and Levy Never won a super bowl...although that doesn't impact my opinion that he was a good coach.

Cox was lifetime 500 games over.500. He is the fourth winningest manager in baseball history.

Over the last forty years, who was better? And if someone was better, what makes that manager better? More world series?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

baseball and football are apples and oranges. The role of a manager in baseball and a head football coach are completely different and the two really shouldn't be compared.

If the comparison is in the sense of having a team consistently winning but not winning the title, then comparing to Marv Levy isn't really fair either. Bobby Cox won Manager of the year at least once in the 80's, 90's and 2000's. His teams won 14 straight division titles. Levy's bills were good for about 7 years and really good for 4 and Levy Never won a super bowl...although that doesn't impact my opinion that he was a good coach.

Cox was lifetime 500 games over.500. He is the fourth winningest manager in baseball history.

Over the last forty years, who was better? And if someone was better, what makes that manager better? More world series?

Eric Wedge is close

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Over the last forty years, who was better? And if someone was better, what makes that manager better? More world series?

I'd go with Mike Hargrove. Without him cox and leyland would have zero combined championships! He's better because he made them genius'

[clyde]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Eric Wedge is close

You think I would disagree with your tongue in Thebby---whoa!! ..I mean cheek remark?




No one has brought up Al Lopez.

40's and 50's,but most probably never heard of him like they probably have McGraw and some of the really old ones.

But a manager's ability to do so is always a function of team talent...in a large part,anyway.

[Smooth Operator]

As if we needed any more proof that CL is a scary good money pitcher...

[clyde]

Clyde Lee=Exhausto Carmona

[Smooth Operator]

CL = ZL





(Clyde Lee = Zenyatta Lover)

[clyde]

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[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

Complete nonsense. Has anyone done less with more in history? He was in the playoffs every year it seems and had an exit every year. 1 championship? Horrendous. Similar to the Mets underachievement during the 80's.

I don't think it's horrendous, but he was a better regular-season manager. In the post, his teams almost always shut it down on offense. I'm sure some of that's on him. How much? Hard to say, but, then, you also have to give him the credit for getting to the post so much. He did get a ring. So, I think the truth is somewhere in between your's n' Cannon's extremes.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Of course, I say to myself, this is also the guy who claimed that Kyle Kendrick was a good pitcher...

LOL..Dodgers will probably end up with that one. They seem to love those C+/B- types.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

And the original post said Cox was basically the best manager of the past 40 years?...No way.

They maybe ate too much cake icing.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

LOL..Dodgers will probably end up with that one. They seem to love those C+/B- types.

you are giving him way too much credit.

He's about a C+/B- guy in Triple A.... in the Majors more like a D+/C- at best.

There is nothing "average" about him, as Randall claims. Solid 7th or 8th starter on a Major League team. That makes the Phillies regular season 97 wins even more impressive. Though three #1 guys kind of equal out a #7 guy.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

I don't think it's horrendous, but he was a better regular-season manager. In the post, his teams almost always shut it down on offense. I'm sure some of that's on him. How much? Hard to say, but, then, you also have to give him the credit for getting to the post so much. He did get a ring. So, I think the truth is somewhere in between your's n' Cannon's extremes.

I'm sure that his presence made the balls stop hitting the bats.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

LOL..Dodgers will probably end up with that one. They seem to love those C+/B- types.

Kyle Kendrick is one of the worst starters in baseball.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

They maybe ate too much cake icing.

I will ask once again. Who was better?

[horseofcourse]

The Yankees are now winning games on broken bat hits by Marcus Thames and Kerry Wood pickoff moves. They are phlegm. And Cliff Lee is sitting in the dugout saying..."yep, I'm throwin for them guys next year!".

[alysheba4]

texas was hanging their heads like they lost the 7th game......that was bad.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by alysheba4

texas was hanging their heads like they lost the 7th game......that was bad.

Rangers have pitching weaknesses. Yanks will find a pitching weakness. Buying up the best hitters will do that. Phils usually do (as well.) Rays don't. Giants don't. Braves (NOT IN THE POST.) Rangers are better at doing it early than late. Twins are better at doing it in the regular season. Their own pitching is not good enough (unless they hit mighty.)