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Old 10-26-2010, 09:07 AM
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On their best days, I honestly doubt Lookin at Lucky could come close to Louis Quatorze. I think you should take a good look at his pps. Louis ran some VERY big races, in some VERY big races, at a time when there were some VERY good horses racing.
You mean he would have stacked up well against First Dude, Super Saver, Trappe Shot, and Thisskyhasnolimit?
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Old 10-26-2010, 09:14 AM
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You mean he would have stacked up well against First Dude, Super Saver, Trappe Shot, and Thisskyhasnolimit?
It's scary to compare some of the 1996 3YOs to this bunch. Skip Away? Unbridled Song? Louis Quatorze? Will's Way?
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Old 10-26-2010, 09:31 AM
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Unbridled's Song in full disclosure is one of my favorite horses evah... but with a different owner and better feet, I always wonder how far he could have gone. He turned for home in the Derby like the next best thing. Oh well.
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Old 10-26-2010, 09:33 AM
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Unbridled's Song in full disclosure is one of my favorite horses evah... but with a different owner and better feet, I always wonder how far he could have gone. He turned for home in the Derby like the next best thing. Oh well.
He has done more to destroy the breed than any other horse in history. Like crossing a Ford Pinto with a Delorian.
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Old 10-26-2010, 09:48 AM
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That is a pretty harsh condemnation of Looking At Lucky, don't you think? The only thing LQ and LAL have in common is that they both won the Preakness. LAL is a 5 time Grade 1 winner, who, like many others before him did not luck into winning the most over-hyped race in the game, The Kentucky Derby. What else has this horse done wrong?
http://www1.drf.com/tc/preakness/200...isquatorze.pdf

Louis Quartorze only won one G1 (the Preakness) and got beat a nose in the Classic, but would absolutely destroy Lookin at Lucky. Look at the horses he got beat by. Hennessy, Maria's Mon, Unbridled's Song, Editor's Note, Skip Away, Will's Way, Cigar, Alphabet Soup. Every one of those horses would be a heavy favorite in the Classic (except Hennessy, being a sprinter.) He would be 3/5 against this group- or less- on his own merit. And the scary thing is, it could be argued that was the 3rd best of the 3yo crops between 1995-1997.

http://www1.drf.com/tc/preakness/201...n-at-lucky.pdf

To be clear, just because the current group isn't that good doesn't mean I'm not looking forward to it. It will be a great two days of racing at the best BC venue.

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Bernardini and Invasor would drown this bunch. And Premium Tap would fill out the tri again.
Definitely.
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Old 10-26-2010, 03:10 PM
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http://www1.drf.com/tc/preakness/200...isquatorze.pdf

Look at the horses he got beat by. Hennessy, Maria's Mon, Unbridled's Song, Editor's Note, Skip Away, Will's Way, Cigar, Alphabet Soup. Every one of those horses would be a heavy favorite in the Classic (except Hennessy, being a sprinter.) He would be 3/5 against this group- or less- on his own merit.
Really?

Really?
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Old 10-26-2010, 02:45 PM
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Unbridled's Song in full disclosure is one of my favorite horses evah... but with a different owner and better feet, I always wonder how far he could have gone. He turned for home in the Derby like the next best thing. Oh well.


my #1 doubleplusgood favorite horsey of all time.

I still see Zito quotes recently saying he was as talented a horse that he's ever trained.
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Old 10-26-2010, 02:42 PM
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It's scary to compare some of the 1996 3YOs to this bunch. Skip Away? Unbridled Song? Louis Quatorze? Will's Way?
even Editor's Note and the filly My Flag would have been at the top of the 2010 crop.

& Honour and Glory
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Old 10-26-2010, 03:00 PM
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even Editor's Note and the filly My Flag would have been at the top of the 2010 crop.

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Honour and Glory was a hell of a horse. He would be a top sprinter/miler in any of the last 15-20 years IMO.
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