NPR you suck

[Danzig]

http://www.slate.com/id/2272262/pagenum/2



the last sentence is absolutely correct.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

I believe this is a pretty straight-forward question with a Yes (it is racist) or No (it is natural to feel nervous sometimes) answer.

Aaaannnnyyyway we can get an answer? Prove to us doubters that you can tackle a tough topic! (not that this is a tough topic or anything)

If you answer honestly I'll give you a bonus prize!!

She's not going to answer a question that will undermine her position. It's that simple. And yet she can't figure out why everyone gives her a hard time.

[Rileyoriley]

Both my conscious and unconscious mind would rather fly with thugs and muslims than Riot.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Danzig

http://www.slate.com/id/2272262/pagenum/2



the last sentence is absolutely correct.

Let's do an experiment and see if any one group committs more crime than another. Let's check out the most wanted criminals in Los Angeles:

http://www.lapdonline.org/all_most_wanted

Do a good inspection of the list. It's beyond what even the most racially biased person would ever imagine in their wildest dreams.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

She's not going to answer a question that will undermine her position. It's that simple. And yet she can't figure out why everyone gives her a hard time.

You had a complete, multi-post argument with yourself discussing what you imagined I thought or said. I wasn't even involved <vbg>

You're really in no position to throw any stones about someone elses "position"

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Riot

You had a complete, multi-post argument with yourself discussing what you imagined I thought or said. I wasn't even involved <vbg>

You're really in no position to throw any stones about someone elses "position"

You are quite a character, to say the least.

[Riot]

Here's a good comment from Dave Sirota at "Open Left"

As Glenn Greenwald correctly notes, Williams was not just privately admitting his bigoted impulses, nor was he stating them publicly so as to say how they are wrong - he was acting on them by going on national TV and suggesting that they are AOK. Indeed, during the O'Reilly interview and afterwards in his FoxNews.com post, Williams endorses his own impulses - he doesn't really refute them.

That's right, Williams restated that publicly declaring his fear of Muslims - and further insisting that someone wearing any Muslim garb means they are automatically "identifying themselves first and foremost as Muslims" (ie. potentially disloyal to America) - "is not a bigoted statement." And to cover himself, Williams then weakly insisted that "I made it clear that all Americans have to be careful not to let fears lead to the violation of anyone's constitutional rights."

Think of the message in that: According to Juan Williams, it's absolutely OK to be a racist, as long as you don't go the extra mile and try to violate someone's rights.

IMHO, it's not OK to be a bigot, even if you are not violating someone's rights. And to argue otherwise is to take natural bigoted impulses and legitimize them as OK.

[clyde]

Originally Posted by Danzig

http://www.slate.com/id/2272262/pagenum/2



the last sentence is absolutely correct.

Danny...enough with the quoting of intellectual hypocracy.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Danzig

http://www.slate.com/id/2272262/pagenum/2



the last sentence is absolutely correct.

Good article.

[Danzig]

i thought it was. seemed a better attempt at the point rupert was trying to make with you, riot. and i'd wager everyone knew the answer, although you were far too reluctant to say what we all would know is the truth. hell, everyone knows you don't have to fear an 80 year old woman, unless she's driving!
it also made the point i was trying to make a few days back. voicing your thoughts or visceral reactions is being honest, not dishonest. now, acting out on irrational feelings is a whole different story. but like i said when this first came out, how can we have dialogue if people are afraid to speak? this thread illustrated that point, albeit a bit awkwardly.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i thought it was. seemed a better attempt at the point rupert was trying to make with you, riot. and i'd wager everyone knew the answer, although you were far too reluctant to say what we all would know is the truth. hell, everyone knows you don't have to fear an 80 year old woman, unless she's driving!
it also made the point i was trying to make a few days back. voicing your thoughts or visceral reactions is being honest, not dishonest. now, acting out on irrational feelings is a whole different story. but like i said when this first came out, how can we have dialogue if people are afraid to speak? this thread illustrated that point, albeit a bit awkwardly.

Ruperts point was self-evident, but for a slightly different reason, matching what he posted about crime in LA. I agree with the article - blind obedience, without question as to why, to irrational fears isn't something to embrace.

[randallscott35]

On Jon Stewart’s first night in the nation’s capital, he had to tackle last week’s firing of the NPR analyst Juan Williams.

Mr. Williams was fired after he said on Fox News that he felt fearful when he saw people in “Muslim garb” on an airplane.

Said Samantha Bee, one of the “Daily Show” correspondents: “It was a direct violation of NPR’s never-say-anything-interesting policy.”

Mr. Stewart latched onto the anti-NPR attitude that dominated Fox News programs in the days after Mr. Williams’s firing by NPR. (Fox immediately extended Mr. Williams’s contract. “NPR, you just brought a tote bag full of David Sedaris books to a knife fight,” Mr. Stewart said. Here’s the segment:

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2...n-williams/?hp

[Riot]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

Said Samantha Bee, one of the “Daily Show” correspondents: “It was a direct violation of NPR’s never-say-anything-interesting policy."

No kidding. Seeing some turn themselves inside-out calling NPR "left wing liberal" makes me think: have they ever even listened to NPR?